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In reply to the discussion: Pelosi: "I'm not thrilled" with Obama's fiscal cliff proposal - but it's not a benefit cut [View all]HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)70. yeah, me too, dude.
As some progressives push back, Pelosi embraces Obama cliff offer
By Carrie Dann and Mark Murray, NBC News
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Tuesday that she backs President Barack Obama's newest proposal to avert the fiscal cliff, defying some progressive Democrats who object to an included cost-of-living calculation that could effectively cut entitlement benefits to Social Security recipients.
Asked by NBC's Andrea Mitchell if she believes she can rally enough Democratic support to pass the White House's plan, Pelosi responded "Yes, I do."
"I believe the president has demonstrated great leadership in what he put forth," she said, arguing that the White House plan would help avert the cliff, create consumer confidence and avoid a credit rating downgrade.
Pelosi pushed back on progressive opponents of one compromise measure that would modify the way cost-of-living increases are calculated to determine Society Security payments. While some in the Democratic Party say that the change -- called "chained CPI" -- would effectively cut Social Security payments, the minority leader said Tuesday that the effects on poor recipients would be minimal once all of the specifics of the deal are worked out.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/18/15997131-as-some-progressives-push-back-pelosi-embraces-obama-cliff-offer?chromedomain=nbcpolitics&lite
so is pelosi part of the republican conspiracy to discredit obama too?
By Carrie Dann and Mark Murray, NBC News
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Tuesday that she backs President Barack Obama's newest proposal to avert the fiscal cliff, defying some progressive Democrats who object to an included cost-of-living calculation that could effectively cut entitlement benefits to Social Security recipients.
Asked by NBC's Andrea Mitchell if she believes she can rally enough Democratic support to pass the White House's plan, Pelosi responded "Yes, I do."
"I believe the president has demonstrated great leadership in what he put forth," she said, arguing that the White House plan would help avert the cliff, create consumer confidence and avoid a credit rating downgrade.
Pelosi pushed back on progressive opponents of one compromise measure that would modify the way cost-of-living increases are calculated to determine Society Security payments. While some in the Democratic Party say that the change -- called "chained CPI" -- would effectively cut Social Security payments, the minority leader said Tuesday that the effects on poor recipients would be minimal once all of the specifics of the deal are worked out.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/18/15997131-as-some-progressives-push-back-pelosi-embraces-obama-cliff-offer?chromedomain=nbcpolitics&lite
so is pelosi part of the republican conspiracy to discredit obama too?
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Pelosi: "I'm not thrilled" with Obama's fiscal cliff proposal - but it's not a benefit cut [View all]
bigtree
Dec 2012
OP
You can't cut what never existed in the first place. Changing the rate of growth is not subtraction.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#17
I don't need to read all that drivel to know that cutting growth is not cutting benefits.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#31
This is why they mislead. They couldn't beat him, so they're pissed even more now than before.
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#68
They are incessant. And it's the same shit over and over. Boilerplate anti-Obama jingoism.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#69
Changing the rate of future growth does not cut existing benefits. Pelosi is right.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#11
it cuts already-scheduled benefits in the year after it's put in place, so yes, it's a lie.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#13
No, you are incorrect. You can't cut benefits that haven't been assigned yet.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#19
hair-splitting. cutting the cpi formula cuts benefits. it *does* take away purchasing power
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#25
You call the truth "Hair-splitting". Why? Because you know you are spreading a falsehood.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#29
Oh that will be a great comfort to those not receiving those benefits in the future.
progressoid
Dec 2012
#41
The average SS check will be more than $50 a month smaller in ten years. Tell someone trying
doc03
Dec 2012
#47
Nancy, before you piss in my ear and tell me it's raining please understand this.
Autumn
Dec 2012
#15
nancy pelosi is saying this is obama's proposal. again, coming from the democrats -- so would
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#16
I think chained cpi should be used on nancy's investment portfolio. for her $60 mill in net worth.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#21
Inflation is about to incur big time, that's how they plan on reducing the debt, the clues
Uncle Joe
Dec 2012
#37
It isn't a cave when it is the plan. I think it is past time to stop pretending
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#66
You created this situation, Nancy, with your 2010 Keep-Bush-Tax-Cuts-for-the-Middle-Class Theater
patrice
Dec 2012
#62
No Congressman Pelosi, it is tantamount to a very flagrant and ugly tax increase, tho
indepat
Dec 2012
#64