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bucolic_frolic

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30. What nutrition told us
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:12 PM
Jun 2025

In the 1960s they told us dairy and beef fat cause heart attacks, and to use trans fats - margarine, vegetable shortening - a WWII accommodation with shortages.

In the 1980s they told us too much beef raises the risk of cancer. Nitrites were a risk of colon cancer, and remain so. Cancer patients were advised to cut back on protein and eat pasta.

In the 1990s chemicals and pesticides are bad for us, all sorts of cancers. Seed oils are ok, they lower the risk of heart disease and arteriosclerosis. Soy and its derivatives are advised as protein substitutes.

Now tallow (lard) is back in favor, soy isolates are to be avoided for cancer risk, seed oils are bad, bad, and bad, even if cold pressed without chemicals.

We've gone through diet craze after diet craze with famous doctor's names attached in bold headlines.

Now we have Keto telling us the problem all along was carbs, starch, pasta, potatoes, baked goods, and impure foods. Everything without sugar is great, fish and especially sardines are great, beef fed grass and the milk they produce is perfect. The real cause of heart disease and cancer was not trans/dairy/beef/seed oil fat and impurities, it was carbohydrates - including the pasta they recommended.

Nitrites and nitrates and growth hormones for turkey, beef, pork are still legal but not in Europe.

I am so glad Bob Kennedy has figured it all out for us. Does his recommendation come with a money back guarantee like the previous diets, crazes, experts??

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What an ignorant fool. Dave Bowman Jun 2025 #1
Yep, to think nutritional studies have never ever been a part of medical school curricula. brush Jun 2025 #23
You mean there's some left? ananda Jun 2025 #29
Only an ignorant fool would think it a good idea for doctors PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2025 #68
They already study nutrition. Dave Bowman Jun 2025 #75
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2025 #69
Really?? You're very funny! GP6971 Jun 2025 #70
He is ignorant, but why are you mad at this? Polybius Jun 2025 #74
I'm mad at the blackmailing. Dave Bowman Jun 2025 #76
A stopped clock is correct twice a day. markodochartaigh Jun 2025 #2
I'm so sick of this goddamned dumbfuck. Basso8vb Jun 2025 #3
Yes, how dare he suggest that doctors in training should learn about nutrition. n/t elocs Jun 2025 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2025 #71
He's acting like junk food companies will change their ways. Ritabert Jun 2025 #4
As I understand it from friends who went mwmisses4289 Jun 2025 #5
Exactly. k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #9
Yes, but they also have to take bio-chemestry. haele Jun 2025 #49
Medical school curricula are changing. yardwork Jun 2025 #52
FFS! They're physicians, not nutritionists no_hypocrisy Jun 2025 #6
Nutrition should be an important part of any physician's education. elocs Jun 2025 #60
Part 2 of rant: no_hypocrisy Jun 2025 #7
This is a great question k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #10
Food is medicine and medicine is food k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #8
I actually spoke with a hospital nutritionist recently. BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #11
It's changing, though. yardwork Jun 2025 #57
Yup. They're one step away from those who lecture sick people about "see-un." Girard442 Jun 2025 #66
That's the goal. yardwork Jun 2025 #67
Medicine is food? yardwork Jun 2025 #12
Hippocrates k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #13
I hope we've "evolved" and advanced since the days of Hippocrates maxrandb Jun 2025 #17
Lots of dramatic emotion in this post k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #42
Fascism requires "dramatic emotion" and ACTION maxrandb Jun 2025 #50
If Hitler told German kids k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #80
No, but I wouldn't take ANY advice from Hitler...would you? maxrandb Jun 2025 #82
I've seen first hand what these dipshits think. yardwork Jun 2025 #47
He didn't say it and it wouldn't have fit his philosophy. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2025 #24
Thanks. yardwork Jun 2025 #46
Those are two different things and one of them is silly. yardwork Jun 2025 #53
I definitely support this too womanofthehills Jun 2025 #25
My thoughts exactly. NH Ethylene Jun 2025 #36
Don't be fooled. yardwork Jun 2025 #56
100000% k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #81
I agree 1000% claudette Jun 2025 #54
Tell me you support killing Americans bronxiteforever Jun 2025 #14
No cake. Let them eat road kill. Ping Tung Jun 2025 #15
Isn't that a high school course? Grins Jun 2025 #16
My niece just started her residency after 8 years of Med School maxrandb Jun 2025 #18
Seems kind of woke, doesn't it? IcyPeas Jun 2025 #19
Medical schools really have done a piss-poor job in teaching future doctors about nutrition elocs Jun 2025 #20
Uh... Aristus Jun 2025 #21
The casual misinformation in this thread is a sight to see. yardwork Jun 2025 #48
I took classes Rebl2 Jun 2025 #22
"A class". Evidently teaching nutrition does not seem to be important in medical school. n/t elocs Jun 2025 #59
When Michelle Obama tried to teach that, MAGA people had a fit. appleannie1 Jun 2025 #26
Yep. Anyone remember Sarah Palin and her Big Gulp? keep_left Jun 2025 #33
The Republicans held steak fundraisers and laughed at Democrats for eating salad. yardwork Jun 2025 #51
Well, having a non-dr, w/no medical training area51 Jun 2025 #27
how about classes on limiting sun exposure to skin, to prevent looking like RFK Jr. Demovictory9 Jun 2025 #28
What nutrition told us bucolic_frolic Jun 2025 #30
Lets just shut down medical schools. milestogo Jun 2025 #31
Yo Bobby! Nutrition has NO connection to Genetics when it comes to diseases!!! ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2025 #32
Genes are turned "on" and "off" k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #41
I'm going to go out on a limb here... jmowreader Jun 2025 #34
Medical schools *DO* teach nutrition, and not wellness industry bullshit. Initech Jun 2025 #35
Oh, just what I think is absolutely most important! slightlv Jun 2025 #37
Republicans crucified Michelle Obama for urging healthier diets for children, called her a do-gooder and a busybody. sop Jun 2025 #38
Road kill for dinner. Henry203 Jun 2025 #39
Followed by a nice swim Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2025 #44
Followed by peptides and raw milk. Initech Jun 2025 #78
There are degrees in nutrition...they get hired to do that job JT45242 Jun 2025 #40
As Kris Kristofferson might have put it: DFW Jun 2025 #43
Clueless idiot. Has he heard of dietitians? My mom wrote a book about nutrition. Kid you not. Botany Jun 2025 #45
He's right to claudette Jun 2025 #55
"Nutrition" or "RFK Jr's Nut-rition" marble falls Jun 2025 #58
According to a Google AI search, the average US medical school offers 20 hours of training in nutrition TheRickles Jun 2025 #62
Nutrition training is fine. viva la Jun 2025 #63
I won't hate on this lovesfruit Jun 2025 #64
Maybe RobinA Jun 2025 #73
Like many of TrumpCo's proposals, there's a little bit of truth. yardwork Jun 2025 #77
Shouldnt we just cut to, we all die Johonny Jun 2025 #65
You can teach it, but they won't practice it. flvegan Jun 2025 #72
A holistic approach to medicine EndlessWire Jun 2025 #79
What a lot of we just teach home economics in h.s. Again and then everyone could learn about nutrition? Iris Jun 2025 #83
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