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michigandem58

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53. The precedent is what bothers me

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:16 AM

Dec 2012

If I knew this would be coupled with some very healthy tax increases for the wealthy (pre-Regan levels) and serious defense cuts - and it would solve the deficit long term - I'd swallow hard and support it.

But whatever package we come up with, it's just step one in solving the deficit. And we've opened the door to more at the next round.

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Is this a joke: 20 years? [View all] ProSense Dec 2012 OP

Proud to K&R this. 99Forever Dec 2012 #1

And to add to the pain of this many of us have lost our company retirement accounts, if we RKP5637 Dec 2012 #2

Well I'll surely be dead by then, I just hope it's by natural causes and not starvation..n/t monmouth3 Dec 2012 #3

Excellent post, Thank You. K&R n/t Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #4

Let's just make this easy, kill off all those ready to qualify for their SS "benefit". All the l% mother earth Dec 2012 #5

This is how I see it Hydra Dec 2012 #13

Exactly. If you can't make profits for the master, you worth is zero...the new slavery. mother earth Dec 2012 #17

It's called debt bondage. Nothing new, but it did go out of fashion here for about 150 years. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #43

Sadly, I don't think you know how close you are to the truth. Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #27

Without a doubt. nt mother earth Dec 2012 #62

soylent green? bobhuntsman Dec 2012 #32

When they lose Prosense!!!! nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #6

No kidding. jsr Dec 2012 #10

In 2014, Tea Party 2 privatizes Social Security! And our dreams will come true! freshwest Dec 2012 #14

Obama's "compromise" is putting us on the road to privatization of everything. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #49

Lack of involvement on the state level by people who don't want that, is doing it. freshwest Dec 2012 #52

Yep... 99Forever Dec 2012 #57

Jeez, I know. Akin to LBJ losing Cronkite on the Vietnam War! villager Dec 2012 #22

Woah a2liberal Dec 2012 #30

And how many times has Prosense said... druidity33 Dec 2012 #63

Excellent explanation. jsr Dec 2012 #7

K&R pscot Dec 2012 #8

The elephant in the room: WHY have the CPI in the deal AT ALL? Whether it's large or small. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #9

The SS actuary tables calculate the average retiree will live to 77 doc03 Dec 2012 #11

Average life expectancy is 78.5 years Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #12

Life expectancy is lowering for the impoverished and middle class me b zola Dec 2012 #24

That's another excellent point. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #42

I don't know me b zola Dec 2012 #58

Did you sign the white house petition? Blanks Dec 2012 #15

Any reason ProSense Dec 2012 #18

Sorry, I wasn't really addressing you necessarily... Blanks Dec 2012 #28

That petition asks for a lot of personal information. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #50

It asks for an email address and a zip code in order to create an account. Blanks Dec 2012 #60

Actually, I think Prosense co-authored the petition with Manny. PA Democrat Dec 2012 #19

She and Manny wrote it nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #20

Well, Fugg that...I'll be dead in 20 years. Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #16

You think they don't know that? This is their way of stealing those copper pennies off Autumn Dec 2012 #21

As the American Eagle flies overhead into a rainbow. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #51

Fuck the Repukes and "what they want" hifiguy Dec 2012 #23

K & R AzDar Dec 2012 #25

I'm no math whiz, so I need help here. Ineeda Dec 2012 #26

Whatever it is, ProSense Dec 2012 #34

Thank you for your polite reply. This I agree with. Ineeda Dec 2012 #36

looks like the stupid of Republican math is catching on rurallib Dec 2012 #29

I could go for $1500/mo Bohunk68 Dec 2012 #31

The issue isn't the amount of the cut IMHO. Blanks Dec 2012 #33

we don't give a shit about what Republicans want. bobhuntsman Dec 2012 #35

Welcome to the dark side. hay rick Dec 2012 #37

is there no sense of decency? Damn! In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #38

Some discussion here about how small the benefit cuts are. tiredtoo Dec 2012 #39

This is a ProSense post? Hissyspit Dec 2012 #40

K&R MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #41

The problem isn't US not giving a shit about what THEY want. renie408 Dec 2012 #44

No deal. rosesaylavee Dec 2012 #45

Thank you, ProSense Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #46

Just leave it! defacto7 Dec 2012 #47

As one who is close to retirement age, can we be honest? NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #48

The precedent is what bothers me michigandem58 Dec 2012 #53

We've been told for *years* that the SS funding shortfall for younger workers is "no big deal". Romulox Dec 2012 #54

Where am I? WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #55

Cue "Twilight Zone" theme :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #56

All for show whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #59

And it's official; Hell has frozen over. Melinda Dec 2012 #61

"People are living longer, right?" Not exactly. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #64

I am sure it's that multi-dimensional chess game, or something. idwiyo Dec 2012 #65