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meegbear

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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:27 PM Dec 2012

The Rude Pundit - What to Do: A Post on Gun Laws That Will Piss Off Guntards [View all]

If at its news conference tomorrow, the NRA says it will support some new gun laws, it will truly be a sign of the Mayan apocalypse. But who are you kidding? The NRA is gonna call for arming everyone and blame people who don't have guns for the violence because the NRA is an organization led by slimy, corporate bought-and-owned motherfuckers who are merely a lobbying arm of the gun industry with a huge financial stake in deluding the most vocal, paranoid, and depraved section of its membership. So while Senator Joe Manchin and others who are having a few doubts now about their oath of fealty to the National Rifle Association can say that the NRA should be "at the table" discussing new gun laws, the rest of us, the ones who think that ownership of military-style weaponry is nuts, will have to come up with a way forward from Newtown and the legally-purchased Lanza arsenal that was used so horribly.

The Rude Pundit begins with a sad, simple premise: shit that can be done in his lifetime. Because a total gun ban, hell, just a total handgun and assault weapon ban in this country is realistically never going to happen, and, even in the wildest utopian scenarios, it would take decades to achieve.

Countries that have banned guns have not become lawless wastelands where dictatorial Kenyan Muslims put them in forced labor concentration camps. One oft-cited statistic is that Japan only had two gun deaths last year. Let's put that in perspective. We have about 2.5 or times the number of people as Japan in the United States. That means 5-6 gun deaths for our 310 million people. Twirl that around you brain for a minute or two.

Here we go:

1. The basics - stuff that the majority of the country agrees on: Background checks for all gun sales. A ban on all assault weapons and magazines over 10 rounds. This is pretty much the stuff that President Obama called for yesterday. If you disagree with this part, you are such an extremist that we have nothing further to talk about, but, please, guntards, read on so that you have more stuff to angrily masturbate over while tickling your prostates with your pistols.

2. Beyond basics - stuff that is still easy to do but makes guntards beat their heads and scream - Every gun registered. Licenses to use guns, renewable by test every 2 years. A ban on some kinds of bullets, like hollow points. A ban on online sales of weapons. Microstamping firearms. Bullet identification systems. Massive funding of gun buybacks. Limit firearm purchases to 1 a month. Cap the number of firearms one can own unless registered as a dealer. License all dealers. Required use of safety locks and storage in homes with children.

3. Getting radical - Things that aren't especially radical, but in our hysterical nation, seem that way - A federal law against concealed carry of firearms. A ban on large purchases of ammunition. No private sales of firearms. No firearms in homes with people who would not pass a firearms purchase background check. A confiscation of all assault weapons that were previously banned. If those have to be from some people's cold, head hands, well, that's their choice to make.

To all the guntards who would read this and huff and puff and say, "Only criminals will have guns and how will we defend ourselves," the Rude Pundit has not said you can't have a pistols in your home to take down the occasional home invader, even though you're more likely to kill yourself or a family member with it than ever have to face off against anyone Straw Dogs-style.

You own a weapon. You own a thing that is meant to kill people. Respect that. Respect that society has a stake in making sure that your mechanism of death isn't used stupidly or criminally. Statistically, you will never get the chance to be a hero. You will never stop a mass shooting. In fact, pretty much everyone who ever did stop one was a trained police or security officer or ex-military.

You might hate speed limits because you know you can drive fast safely. But all it takes is one person not as skilled as you believe you are to spin out and kill a whole bunch of us. If you speed a lot and get caught, you get your license taken away. All you gotta do is respect the speed limit, and you can drive as much as you want.

Gun laws exist not to deny you anything, but to protect the rest of us.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2012/12/what-to-do-post-on-gun-laws-that-will.html

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tax and regulate eom tj_crackersnatch Dec 2012 #1
Yup Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #31
Hollow point ammunition is safer than "ball" or Cu plated round point ammunition. Why do you bluerum Dec 2012 #2
Safer for whom? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #5
It does not go through walls hack89 Dec 2012 #28
Because the "guntards" use them to expand in their targets. They don't give a shit about bystanders. Hoyt Dec 2012 #6
Indeed!!!! haikugal Dec 2012 #9
More bullshit amateur psychoanalysis, Hoyt? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #10
Like I said, it's time to quit coddling those who think their need to hug a bunch of guns is more Hoyt Dec 2012 #12
Oooh! Bullshit amateur psychoanalysis AND straw man! Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #18
So you're saying you feel like you need to be coddled? rbixby Dec 2012 #38
I see nothing groundbreaking in his post tkmorris Dec 2012 #13
"They don't give a shit about bystanders." Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #16
I'll take your word on it... daleanime Dec 2012 #20
The Newtown killer did not use hollow points. bluerum Dec 2012 #94
K&R nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #3
K&R 99Forever Dec 2012 #4
Federal law against concealed carry Fumesucker Dec 2012 #7
Not a federal issue hack89 Dec 2012 #30
Look, you have people starting arguments in restaraunts and then ending them with a concealed gun Fumesucker Dec 2012 #32
Can states make weed totally legal? Washington and Colorado think they can. hack89 Dec 2012 #33
Law abiding gun owners will follow federal law Fumesucker Dec 2012 #37
So all those pot smokers in Washington and Colorado are criminals? Really? hack89 Dec 2012 #39
I've been needing a new hobby I'm kind of of bored with the old ones Fumesucker Dec 2012 #41
So you're saying the 1934 federal law banning machine guns thucythucy Dec 2012 #100
They did not ban machine guns - they are perfectly legal for private citizens to own hack89 Dec 2012 #106
Okay. Then the way to go would seem to be thucythucy Dec 2012 #108
Heller has changed things somewhat hack89 Dec 2012 #110
I agree it won't be easy, and that a consensus thucythucy Dec 2012 #111
Concealed carry? Hmmmm... I've been thinking about a new hobby... hunter Dec 2012 #81
I like the Tree of Life. Nice. Hoyt Dec 2012 #98
Nail...meet The Rude One!! haikugal Dec 2012 #8
Since when is any form of "retard" okay here? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #11
Give us a break. You are just another gun cultist trying to deflect blame from your "hobby." Hoyt Dec 2012 #14
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #17
Wow... "guntard" wasn't hidden letemrot Dec 2012 #47
The Term "guntard" Came From The Rude's Piece HangOnKids Dec 2012 #59
In the OP title there are no quotes letemrot Dec 2012 #63
I guess you just take your chances on an internet board. It is what it is. HangOnKids Dec 2012 #66
as much as I detest gun enthusiasts Skittles Dec 2012 #15
Well...at least we have that in common! Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #19
He's the "RUDE PUNDIT" for a reason. MessiahRp Dec 2012 #23
I agree, this is a term demeaning to people with developmental disabilities, thucythucy Dec 2012 #101
Excellent statement at the end: SpankMe Dec 2012 #21
I love this! But knowing the mentality of the bad guys, that bumper sticker on your car calimary Dec 2012 #103
This rocks, but I'll add one more Proud Public Servant Dec 2012 #22
Sensible man and article riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #24
'Guntards' is juvenile. randome Dec 2012 #25
+1 Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #26
If you let the NRA speak for you that's how others are going to think of you Fumesucker Dec 2012 #35
So to get stupid people to behave more rationally, we need to be more stupid? randome Dec 2012 #43
OK.. Fumesucker Dec 2012 #46
There is no reasoning with the likes of Nugent, that's for sure. randome Dec 2012 #57
We have ways to deal with people who don't "cooperate with new regulations" DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #42
I agree completely with creating much more comprehensive laws for guns. randome Dec 2012 #44
If their position is unreasonable then they appear more and more unhinged the harder they fight Fumesucker Dec 2012 #48
There is that. randome Dec 2012 #55
The Rude One hits it out of the park again. hifiguy Dec 2012 #27
I disagree with the ban on hollow points. JoeyT Dec 2012 #29
What is it with gunheads and... 99Forever Dec 2012 #34
Do you want legislation? cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #64
Well golly gee... 99Forever Dec 2012 #65
No, apparently we don't. JoeyT Dec 2012 #69
NOT TODAY , NOT EVER --> "the NRA and right wingers are the only ones that sound like " bettyellen Dec 2012 #104
They're awesome at taking sections of a sentence out of context too. JoeyT Dec 2012 #105
Today, the NRA sounded like deranged moronic selfish assholes. So there's that. bettyellen Dec 2012 #107
Yep. JoeyT Dec 2012 #109
Yeah, trying to craft functional legislation makes me a gunhead. JoeyT Dec 2012 #68
Precisely who did I call "retards." 99Forever Dec 2012 #76
You didn't. JoeyT Dec 2012 #82
Hollow points sarisataka Dec 2012 #72
Yep. JoeyT Dec 2012 #74
A very unfortunate fact is sarisataka Dec 2012 #80
True, but only because gunsters will always push the envelop to satisfy their need Hoyt Dec 2012 #99
Thoughts on the proposals... Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #36
Forgive me if I missed something genxlib Dec 2012 #45
Clarifications. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #56
With all due respect genxlib Dec 2012 #86
On private sales. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #89
Too much potential for fraud with online sales and online registration. I work for the state and Erose999 Dec 2012 #54
If the banks can figure out how to pass finanancial credentials, this is a solveable problem. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #58
I've had 2 instances of fraud on my bank account in the past year. Nothing online is secure. Nothing Erose999 Dec 2012 #112
"No private sales of firearms" JoeyT Dec 2012 #70
It's harder to buy cold and sinus medicine. Matariki Dec 2012 #40
Hell, it's harder to VOTE in an election! AllyCat Dec 2012 #62
Maybe at a cold medicine show it is, but not in a store. cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #67
That's because there's a JoeyT Dec 2012 #71
The gun registry should be open for public viewing. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #49
That would be a bad idea. JoeyT Dec 2012 #73
But what kind of militia do we have if membership in it is secret? JDPriestly Dec 2012 #91
The kind that isn't shooting someone JoeyT Dec 2012 #95
Invitation to theft. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #78
But the Second Amendment grants the right to bear arms in order to insure we have a militia. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #93
The kind that fears its government. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #96
I fucking love you. nt rivegauche Dec 2012 #50
Hey, I bought sake from a sidewalk vending machine in Tokyo in the wee hours of the morning DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #51
Close down gun shows!!! lastlib Dec 2012 #52
K&R for the Rude Pundit. nt Chorophyll Dec 2012 #53
LOL OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #60
And while we are at it, require gun owners to purchase liability insurance AllyCat Dec 2012 #61
No problem. It's cheap, and you will probably get it as part of your NRA membership. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #77
If your gun is stolen/missing and it can be shown you were not reasonably prudent Fumesucker Dec 2012 #85
Good ideas, rude guy, but they still won't get us to Japan's low level of gun deaths Dems to Win Dec 2012 #75
Our *non*-gun homicide rate is higher than Japan's *total* rate, too. X_Digger Dec 2012 #79
As I said, 'Japan's low level of gun deaths'. Gun-murder is the lazy man's way of death. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #83
It's only "gun carnage" that bothers you. Okay. X_Digger Dec 2012 #84
People don't have a constitutional right to own a bat. Guns are oh-so-special Dems to Win Dec 2012 #88
No shit, people don't have a constitional right to a bat.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #90
Article V of the US Constitution awaits your attention. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #87
Lets look at your proposals happyslug Dec 2012 #92
Kicked and FUCKING recommended for the RUDE PUNDIT!! madinmaryland Dec 2012 #97
While I agree with much of this OP, "guntard" is a demeaning slur thucythucy Dec 2012 #102
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