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pipoman

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40. Don't you understand...

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:04 PM

Dec 2012

I have heard nobody saying that all or most people with mental illness issues are dangerous. I and others I have heard are simply saying that the majority of these people who do mass/rampage/spree (what ever you want to call it) killings have a history of mental illness. These things are very rare in the whole scheme of things, it is hard to deny the connection between mental illness and these types of incidents.

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Is having the conversation about mental illness and horrendous violent crime stigmatizing? [View all] Arcana Dec 2012 OP

The snippet you posted is wrong. randome Dec 2012 #1

Maybe would be if a good share of rampage shooters didn't turn out pipoman Dec 2012 #2

70% of murders are by guns BainsBane Dec 2012 #12

Why not both? Arcana Dec 2012 #13

I'm fine with that BainsBane Dec 2012 #17

But scapegoating legal gun owners is perfectly acceptable hack89 Dec 2012 #27

no one is scapegoating gun owners BainsBane Dec 2012 #29

So all those OPs equating gun ownership with mental illness hack89 Dec 2012 #30

Did I write them? BainsBane Dec 2012 #31

Just pointing out the mood of DU hack89 Dec 2012 #32

. . . BainsBane Dec 2012 #34

Democrats own guns hack89 Dec 2012 #35

what point was that? BainsBane Dec 2012 #36

I am certainly will to consider reforms hack89 Dec 2012 #37

So the majority of these rampage killings aren't also pipoman Dec 2012 #14

A fraction of murders BainsBane Dec 2012 #16

... pipoman Dec 2012 #25

Another point BainsBane Dec 2012 #18

I agree with all of this.. pipoman Dec 2012 #26

That mass murder of people of color is utterly ignored Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #3

The constant war tama Dec 2012 #4

Some of us have nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #6

Some black Connecticut residents question media attention on Newtown shootings FarCenter Dec 2012 #11

It's a problem "white america" may not be interested in addressing, much less solving. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #42

Nope, not one bit nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #5

Yes, of course it is. H2O Man Dec 2012 #7

So the majority of these guys aren't mentally ill? pipoman Dec 2012 #9

Which guys? H2O Man Dec 2012 #10

Rampage killers. pipoman Dec 2012 #15

"Rampage killers" is a H2O Man Dec 2012 #28

In the case of Jared Loughner, James Holmes, and Seung-Hui Cho, weren't they just expelled and Arcana Dec 2012 #38

Don't you understand... pipoman Dec 2012 #40

I understand. H2O Man Dec 2012 #41

There has been borderline conceptual discussion of it here in GD, in poll form etc. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #43

I think that would be ridiculous pipoman Dec 2012 #49

You lost me at "PETA vegan is outrageous." Didn't bother to read the rest. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #8

How could anyone possibly think this creates stigma? Denninmi Dec 2012 #19

there's some big brother shit being suggested fizzgig Dec 2012 #21

Yup, my exact thought. Denninmi Dec 2012 #22

When advocates and activists say "Let's have the conversation" I think they prefer more level-headed Arcana Dec 2012 #23

It's a little hard not to take it personally Denninmi Dec 2012 #24

I understand Arcana Dec 2012 #39

it does when it calls for a broadbrush abrogation of our rights fizzgig Dec 2012 #20

I am opposed to mentally ill people with potentially violent tendencies having firearms el_bryanto Dec 2012 #33

Perhaps because such is being stated in broad brush strokes without real knowledge of mental illness Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #44

There's nothing controversial about that, but that's not REALLY the nature of the concern. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #45

"mentally ill people with violent tendencies" loyalsister Dec 2012 #46

Spot on! Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #48

Yes, it's stigmatising Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #47