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Abstractartist

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43. Sorry but
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 06:25 PM
Jun 2025

Sorry to say this but there must…. MUST have paper ballots for elections, or at least paper ballots for congressional, gubernatorial and presidential elections.

THIS MUST BE THE LAW.

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Kick musette_sf Jun 2025 #1
Yup they did. SheltieLover Jun 2025 #2
Not good. No sense in having another presidential election since they've figured out... brush Jun 2025 #29
They've been stealing and cheating since they lost of the Civil War. Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #116
I think it boils down DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #149
No!! It's time to fight like hell for fair, UNCHEATABLE, elections. We can do this! BComplex Jun 2025 #123
It feels like the truth is on the way.... FarPoint Jun 2025 #37
"The election never passed my smell test."..When the aged tfg said at one of his rally's "no need to vote.... mitch96 Jun 2025 #58
And Eloon pondering on air how long of a prison sentence he'd get if T💩p didn't win the election. OMGWTF Jun 2025 #119
This makes so much sense to me. ananda Jun 2025 #3
Post removed Post removed Jun 2025 #4
Rude FirstLight Jun 2025 #5
Sometimes the truth hurts. These ridiculous conspiracy theories are no different from the garbage pushed by MAGA tritsofme Jun 2025 #6
No not really... FirstLight Jun 2025 #13
That may be true, but it doesn't make these delusional conspiracy theories any more accurate. tritsofme Jun 2025 #18
Gee, too bad you don't like this discussion. Kingofalldems Jun 2025 #21
I actually kind of enjoy these threads. tritsofme Jun 2025 #23
You're being insulting. returnee Jun 2025 #155
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jun 2025 #46
And what is your source that this story is garbage? dchill Jun 2025 #38
Did you read the article and attachments or just pass judgment on it? waterwatcher123 Jun 2025 #53
Just as an aside....Space X has a collaborative contract with T-mobile Melon Jun 2025 #163
Some of the anomalies have been pointed out by a group of statistics professors. pnwmom Jun 2025 #137
Newsweek is reporting serious problems, not "ridiculous conspiracy theories." pnwmom Jun 2025 #159
Wow I hadn't heard that TacosUberAlles Jun 2025 #161
Thank you. And welcome to DU! nt pnwmom Jun 2025 #162
Well thank you TacosUberAlles Jun 2025 #167
If there's evidence, nobody has presented it EdmondDantes_ Jun 2025 #15
Why should American citizens need any "evidence " to count the votes in an open transparent manner? questionseverything Jun 2025 #32
They were counted in an open and transparent manner EdmondDantes_ Jun 2025 #49
By open... Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #75
I mean the exact same way in 2020, 2016, 2012, 2008 EdmondDantes_ Jun 2025 #84
The article the op is discussing tells us many machines were certified w/o inspections even though "patches " were added questionseverything Jun 2025 #86
The certifying agencies have access to the software Abnredleg Jun 2025 #129
I'm happy for you that you are so trusting. n/t Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #148
And in 2020 repubs challenged Georgia's results and a hand count was done questionseverything Jun 2025 #88
Agreed WOLFMAN87 Jun 2025 #45
A recount would provide the only evidence. Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #76
A machine recount proves nothing. MuirHero Jun 2025 #90
Plus... Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #103
Almost all states did hand counts during their post-election audits Abnredleg Jun 2025 #132
Sure, here and there. Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #146
No - Risk Reduction Audits are very thorough Abnredleg Jun 2025 #151
The month before the election DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #7
The legit media isn't going to run after these theories like RWers do. ificandream Jun 2025 #8
Well, we've already heard from Marc Elias, the foremost authority on Republican election shenanigans tritsofme Jun 2025 #12
I trust Marc. BUT bluestarone Jun 2025 #30
I have never disagreed with him before... returnee Jun 2025 #156
Those "experts" like Marc Elias do not understand computer voting annielion Jun 2025 #118
Two highly respected journalist already have DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #25
Yep, titled. Trump Lost. Vote Suppression Won. DiamondShark Jun 2025 #70
Not sure, DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #78
Here try this one DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #80
Joesph Stalin Botany Jun 2025 #120
They way that Trump is already DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #144
What we really need is another Mark Felt. ShazzieB Jun 2025 #27
When this current admin falls apart (which is happening), we'll have some whistleblowers coming forward! liberalla Jun 2025 #74
I believe you are right! ShazzieB Jun 2025 #127
Does Newsweek count? Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #77
And according to the article Leonard Leo's sale of Tripp Lite to Eaton put Theil (and Musk ?) into .. Botany Jun 2025 #9
He said that knowing that the theft is untraceable. live love laugh Jun 2025 #47
The theft would be uncovered by a hand recount of the ballots. MuirHero Jun 2025 #93
I figured they lost a bunch of democratic mail in votes Tribetime Jun 2025 #10
I haven't wanted to go here because mountain grammy Jun 2025 #11
VP Harris own internal polling never had her winning bottomofthehill Jun 2025 #101
My post from last year. spike jones Jun 2025 #14
I've programmed ES&S machines. DiamondShark Jun 2025 #67
I hear that mountain grammy Jun 2025 #82
Also Diebold IP was sold to Dominion after ES&S was accused of being a monopoly. DiamondShark Jun 2025 #68
Glad to see this getting more traction. Everyone needs to read it. Karasu Jun 2025 #16
Why didn't they fight then? Crunchy Frog Jun 2025 #17
Exactly. There are really only two options here, that either Harris and her billion dollar campaign were just too stupid tritsofme Jun 2025 #22
Hey, the Dems literally rolled over DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #26
Dems always roll over when there is suspected election fraud ERW Jun 2025 #55
If this is the case then we need better quality Dems. Crunchy Frog Jun 2025 #63
Some of us on this forum were jumping up and down after the election, yellow dahlia Jun 2025 #64
I always just assumed that their own internal polling Crunchy Frog Jun 2025 #66
I believe the Ann Selzer poll was correct. yellow dahlia Jun 2025 #153
The hand counts occurred during the audits Abnredleg Jun 2025 #133
they may have realized, DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #147
not a comment on the legitimacy of the election but Skittles Jun 2025 #83
I think I speak for many here. BidenRocks Jun 2025 #19
Watch out-----here they come! Kingofalldems Jun 2025 #20
Yes, and let us hope that karma is coming for them all. Joinfortmill Jun 2025 #24
There's your fraud Evolve Dammit Jun 2025 #28
Election rso Jun 2025 #31
The vote counting companies say the working mechanisms are proprietary questionseverything Jun 2025 #36
Elections rso Jun 2025 #69
The 3 letter agencies are disappearing people, even citizens so questionseverything Jun 2025 #85
Elections rso Jun 2025 #87
Are these agencies full of super humans that can look into a puter and read it's software? questionseverything Jun 2025 #89
Elections rso Jun 2025 #115
In a democracy, the people have the right to oversee the counting of our votes questionseverything Jun 2025 #125
Elections rso Jun 2025 #131
Actually this sub thread started with you claiming I should trust the alphabet agencies questionseverything Jun 2025 #145
Elections rso Jun 2025 #160
Precinct by precinct is best questionseverything Jun 2025 #168
The certifying agencies have access to the source code Abnredleg Jun 2025 #128
That's not what the voting companies or any us agency says questionseverything Jun 2025 #134
The Voting System Test Laboratory does a code review Abnredleg Jun 2025 #138
... questionseverything Jun 2025 #142
I did read it Abnredleg Jun 2025 #150
Eavesdropping on comms WITHIN the US is generally illegal, without a specific warrant. eppur_se_muova Jun 2025 #96
Democrats play checkers, Republicans play chess DSandra Jun 2025 #33
Republicans don't play chess. dchill Jun 2025 #41
Still, we have to stop just being on defense because defense alone is bound to fail DSandra Jun 2025 #44
Dems had the option to challenge the ballots before the election was certified. Party leaders refused DSandra Jun 2025 #52
Democrats play Chinese checkers. Republicans play Hungry, Hungry Hippos. meadowlander Jun 2025 #81
I never doubted it-- something was off-- WAY off ailsagirl Jun 2025 #34
And still is. dchill Jun 2025 #42
Does anyone know if... ailsagirl Jun 2025 #61
From what I've researched from the past two weeks, the numbers are way-too-strange. chouchou Jun 2025 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Jacson6 Jun 2025 #39
I have no idea, but hamsterjill Jun 2025 #40
Been said before and worth EVERYONE saying again - Lokee11 Jun 2025 #112
Sorry but Abstractartist Jun 2025 #43
That's the thing, most places have paper ballots but it takes a court order to hand count them questionseverything Jun 2025 #91
Yes Abstractartist Jun 2025 #109
But those same states do audits Abnredleg Jun 2025 #135
You are saying things that aren't true questionseverything Jun 2025 #136
We're talking a handful of precincts in NY Abnredleg Jun 2025 #139
If the machine can be wrong in on precinct it can be wrong in any precinct questionseverything Jun 2025 #143
The audit process is public Abnredleg Jun 2025 #152
My question is, if it's true, what can be realistically done? Buddyzbuddy Jun 2025 #48
That's the bottom line. Xavier Breath Jun 2025 #56
More to the point... regnaD kciN Jun 2025 #59
We're always 1 step behind. Buddyzbuddy Jun 2025 #99
Yes. Do we understand it enough to stop it in 2026? GoodRaisin Jun 2025 #141
IMHO, we as, Democrats need to plan for the worst case scenario. Buddyzbuddy Jun 2025 #157
This DIGITAL AMBUSH OF ELECTIONS will continue until it's stopped by high turnout in all battlegrounds. ancianita Jun 2025 #50
Cheaters gonna cheat, we've got an unelected rodent for president...I've said this since the "election"... wcmagumba Jun 2025 #51
We wuz robbed again? czarjak Jun 2025 #54
I believe Greg Palast has the answer - MaineNative Jun 2025 #57
Time for a Rachel special on this or CNN or PBS Jit423 Jun 2025 #60
Let me hop in a time machine... DiamondShark Jun 2025 #71
So stolen! And, guess who owns Eaton- Quakerfriend Jun 2025 #62
We need to keep talking about all the evidence and data that have been revealed in recent months. yellow dahlia Jun 2025 #65
I woke up one night after the election and thought the same thing is they manipulated the tabulation kimbutgar Jun 2025 #72
I'm saying bluestarone Jun 2025 #73
Here is what I'll say to those who are saying this is just simple nuttery Picaro Jun 2025 #79
THIS. It's utterly ridiculous to see people here comparing this to RW conspiracy theories. The RW are people who have a Karasu Jun 2025 #92
Network security protocols for election equipment are pretty rigorous Abnredleg Jun 2025 #154
So that's why he's doing such a shitty job? kentuck Jun 2025 #94
The 2000 election was stolen. PufPuf23 Jun 2025 #95
There was an interesting article B.See Jun 2025 #97
Rove openly stated that they can and would cheat IbogaProject Jun 2025 #98
And now there's AI . that'll be manipulated in their favor somehow. IcyPeas Jun 2025 #100
That may very well be but there isn't anything to be done about it. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2025 #102
At the very least we need to know if our election process is safe neohippie Jun 2025 #110
Well, I'm glad someone is looking into it. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2025 #111
Maybe we can make the next election count transparent? questionseverything Jun 2025 #130
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2025 #104
What information do you lack? marble falls Jun 2025 #124
WTF did people sat back in 2000 HarryM Jun 2025 #105
when people say they voted for someone and the count shows 0 then somethings not right samnsara Jun 2025 #106
Interestingly, I have seem nearly exactly the same arguments made about the 2020 election hueymahl Jun 2025 #107
Russian tail Kali999 Jun 2025 #108
K&R spanone Jun 2025 #113
Part 2 ...... they had the courts too. Just as important as part 1. Please give it some love. Botany Jun 2025 #114
The statisticians have the evidence of massive vote manipulation annielion Jun 2025 #117
Palantir is a truly fucking evil corporation. Peter Theil needs to be hauled off to Supermax now. Initech Jun 2025 #121
Thank you, Botany!! This is something that so many have ignored for so long. 2024 was so obviously rigged/stolen. BComplex Jun 2025 #122
The truth matters. Six117 Jun 2025 #126
truth always matters B.See Jun 2025 #164
The people who rail that this is just a conspiracy theory are really not looking at the obvious. hadEnuf Jun 2025 #140
They were busted red handed in 2020. Kid Berwyn Jun 2025 #158
Is the DTC thing real? If so wow. JanMichael Jun 2025 #165
It wasn't with the voting machine but the central tabulators which if you believe this sub stack piece had ... Botany Jun 2025 #166
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