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eallen

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30. That depends. Not every suicide is a wrong that should have been righted.

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:37 PM

Dec 2012

People are schizophrenic in their attitude to suicide. The same person who fights to legalize assisted suicide in the morning, in the afternoon says we have to do something about gun suicides.

Many suicides are tragic. Especially those committed by the young, under motivation that anyone with more life experience will tell them is temporary.

Some suicides are the rational choice of mature individuals facing insuperable difficulty, such as incurable disease that robs their ability ever again to live as they want. It is no accident that people over 75 commit suicide at higher rates than those younger. That's when many such diseases strike. Often in combination.

I can make a judgment about someone's suicide based on their life circumstances and motivation. But that they used a gun rather than a drug doesn't tell me much at all.

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Wow! Gun deaths set to out strip automobile fatalities [View all] cthulu2016 Dec 2012 OP

In any event, people don't buy cars for the express purpose of killing other people with them. djean111 Dec 2012 #1

well, maybe not people you know cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #3

It looks like over half are suicides. I would like to see that addressed. Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #18

And several of the murders are simply by products of suicides, jtuck004 Dec 2012 #27

It would not surprise me at all Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #39

>If we could get to those people who are depressed < We are swimming in them. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #46

What you described is an often-overlooked consequence of mass gun ownership Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #52

Plus, a typical person will spend more time operating a vehicle than operating a firearm. bulloney Dec 2012 #21

Why not license guns like cars? htuttle Dec 2012 #2

because cars aren't licensed? cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #5

And yet -- the privilege to use one is! villager Dec 2012 #6

Really? htuttle Dec 2012 #7

Registered, taxed, and insurance required (if it is going to be operated) jberryhill Dec 2012 #10

Actually... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #31

How precious...and a car on a non-op or an agricultural vehicle is OK on private property, too. libdem4life Dec 2012 #35

They already are. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #43

And domestic terrorists don't usually fire rounds on kids on their own private property. That, too libdem4life Dec 2012 #47

Poverty kills more than cars & I AM ALL IN FOR ENDING POVERTY! HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #4

+!000. Especially poverty caused by the financial sector and propped up by their lackeys jtuck004 Dec 2012 #28

Because killing is not the intended use of a car; NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #8

The improvements in auto safety are truly remarkable jberryhill Dec 2012 #9

GREAT arguement! This guy drove his volvo into an elementary school rustydog Dec 2012 #11

Not much into that reading thing, eh? cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #14

years ago some guy drove a car into the podium of a kkk rally... HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #20

Yeah, but JoeyT Dec 2012 #34

+100000000 Glassunion Dec 2012 #41

We got us some Gallows Humor .. indeed ! libdem4life Dec 2012 #48

Our shitty infrastructure relies on cars RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #12

Cars are heavily regulated regarding safety, efficiency, emissions, aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2012 #13

FOR USE IN PUBLIC! bobclark86 Dec 2012 #32

Please proceed, then, Citizen. You'll get no quarrel from most of us here. LOL libdem4life Dec 2012 #36

Please proceed. n/t CottonBear Dec 2012 #40

ALL CAPS! progressoid Dec 2012 #45

Feel free to drive your homemade rocket fuel powered car from your driveway into your garage aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2012 #51

Well, it WOULD cut down on pollution. Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #15

Easy answer: The purpose of cars is not to terminate human life. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #16

When cars kill too many people like the Ford Pinto we make them safer JeffHead Dec 2012 #17

So about 20,000 Americans kill themselves with.... Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #19

Approximately, yes. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #25

Wow, I am amazed to see that. malthaussen Dec 2012 #22

62% are suicide. How very sad. We need to do something. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2012 #23

That depends. Not every suicide is a wrong that should have been righted. eallen Dec 2012 #30

Legalize drugs, would cut way down on the other 38% pediatricmedic Dec 2012 #33

You know, maybe we should take guns away from people that have DUI's Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #24

That's the law if you get a DUI ... can't pass a background check for a weapon ... libdem4life Dec 2012 #49

I hadn't realized that suicides were such a big component of the gun death numbers. DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #26

Intent defines an accident. Glassunion Dec 2012 #42

And car fatalities are DOWN significantly as a result of safety and anti-DUI laws Tab Dec 2012 #29

Tax the bejesus out of guns, and we'd be able to afford the regulation and the mayhem and death libdem4life Dec 2012 #37

And with that goes another NRA talking point ShadowLiberal Dec 2012 #38

Cars have been ever-engineered to be safer, while guns have been ever-engineered to be more deadly. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #44

True. More reason why guns should be treated as cars...speaking of the ability to regulate and libdem4life Dec 2012 #50

I think one of the ten myths that non gunners upaloopa Dec 2012 #53