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Sympthsical

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8. It's a legal standard when deciding constitutional issues
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:27 AM
Jun 2025

It's a little complicated, but the best explanation I can manage is when considering this law, the question the Court posed was whether or not it furthers a legitimate government interest and the law is tailored for this even if it may slightly complicate a constitutional right. In this case, Texas instituted age verification to prevent minors from accessing porn. Adults argued the regulation interfered with their First Amendment right to consume legal content.

When using intermediate scrutiny, the Court's asking 1. Is the law constitutional on its own (can you have age restrictions?) and 2. is the law written to effect solely that purpose? In other words, is the law written with the purpose of preventing minors from accessing porn, or are there sneaky provisions in it whose real aim is to prevent adults from accessing porn? Are they making porn more difficult to access for adults on purpose, or is that added layer of difficulty incidental to the purpose of protecting children?

So there were three levels when deciding what standard to use when judging the constitutionality of a law. Rational basis (least intense), intermediate scrutiny (sometimes it's a violation of rights, but sometimes it's not, so let's explore the space here), and strict scrutiny (it looks like you are either grossly violating constitutional rights or likely to do so, and unless there is a God-level good reason here, we're going to be pretty hostile to what you're doing and the government had better explain itself thoroughly).

In this case, where obscenity is involved, the Court ruled that it lands in the middle. This traces back to a decision in 1968, Ginsberg v. New York, where the Court ruled you can ban adult materials to minors. The speech is protected for adults and not for children. So, in this case, the Court decided to use that medium scrutiny. The law is aimed at children, but has some ancillary effect on adults.

All intermediate scrutiny requires in this case is that the law is not written and executed in such a way that the government is attempting to violate the First Amendment (i.e. they say they're protecting kids, but their real goal is adults).

The Court said that isn't the case. Yeah, it's a slight pain in the ass for adults, but the government's interest in withholding the material from children is legitimate and the law as written is not an excessive burden on adults exercising their rights.

And I'll just quote the salient bit from the decision, because that might actually be clearer than my cobbled explanation:


Because H. B. 1181 simply requires proof of age to access content that is obscene to minors, it does not directly regulate adults’ protected speech. Adults have the right to access speech obscene only to minors, see Butler, 352 U. S., at 383–384, and submitting to age verification burdens the exercise of that right. But adults have no First Amendment right to avoid age verification. Any burden on adults is therefore incidental to regulating activity not protected by the First Amendment. This makes intermediate scrutiny the appropriate standard under the Court's precedents.

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Basically whatever conservatives want, they get newdeal2 Jun 2025 #1
What the heck does "intermediate scrutiny" mean? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #2
I think you hit the nail on the head. sakabatou Jun 2025 #4
It has to do with how the court weighs rights and how the law affects those rights Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2025 #5
Free speech is nothing without the freedom to read. What's next? Registering to read political analysis? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #6
Your two points seem to be contradictory muriel_volestrangler Jun 2025 #10
Not contradictory. For example many people grow tomatoes (easy) but still buy produce at supermarket. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #11
That doesn't seem an equivalent. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2025 #12
Nobody is required to buy porn. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #13
That doesn't help. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2025 #14
1) Porn available on free non-porn sites (analogy tomatoes). 2) Most porn is on pay sites (analogy supermarket) Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #16
'Most porn is on pay sites' is different from 'Accessing porn sites requires credit cards' muriel_volestrangler Jun 2025 #17
Not universal about porn. Only universal about porn sites. Both statements are true. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #18
That seems like a "no true Scotsman" argument. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2025 #19
I wouldn't know that about Pornhub. I've never been to their site. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #20
Neither have I, but just googling '"pornhub" "free"' returns muriel_volestrangler Jun 2025 #22
It's a legal standard when deciding constitutional issues Sympthsical Jun 2025 #8
Thank you for taking the time to help me understand. It was not what I thought it might be Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #9
No doubt "adult content" will now include birth control information Arazi Jun 2025 #3
It has been the dream of tech companies biocube Jun 2025 #7
The Impact of Age Verification Measures Goes Beyond Porn Sites usonian Jun 2025 #15
Result, the internet savvy will get to watch porn Johonny Jun 2025 #21
"... 10 year moratorium would wipe out the Texas law that the Supreme Court just blessed a few hours ago." mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2025 #23
There is so much porn on the internet i don't know how this law can be enforced Buckeyeblue Jun 2025 #24
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