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84. What Life Means to Me
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jun 2025
What Life Means to Me
Socialist Jack London

excerpt:

It was the same everywhere, crime and betrayal, betrayal and crime--men who were alive, but who were neither clean nor noble, men who were clean and noble, but who were not alive. Then there was a great, hopeless mass, neither noble nor alive, but merely clean. It did not sin positively nor deliberately; but it did sin passively and ignorantly by acquiescing in the current immorality and profiting by it. Had it been noble and alive it would not have been ignorant, and it would have refused to share in the profits of betrayal and crime.

I discovered that I did not like to live on the parlour floor of society. Intellectually I was as bored. Morally and spiritually I was sickened. I remembered my intellectuals and idealists, my unfrocked preachers, broken professors, and clean-minded, class-conscious working-men. I remembered my days and nights of sunshine and starshine, where life was all a wild sweet wonder, a spiritual paradise of unselfish adventure and ethical romance. And I saw before me, ever blazing and burning, the Holy Grail.

So I went back to the working-class, in which I had been born and where I belonged. I care no longer to climb. The imposing edifice of society above my head holds no delights for me. It is the foundation of the edifice that interests me. There I am content to labour, crowbar in hand, shoulder to shoulder with intellectuals, idealists, and class-conscious working-men, getting a solid pry now and again and setting the whole edifice rocking. Some day, when we get a few more hands and crowbars to work, we'll topple it over, along with all its rotten life and unburied dead, its monstrous selfishness and sodden materialism. Then we'll cleanse the cellar and build a new habitation for mankind, in which there will be no parlour floor, in which all the rooms will be bright and airy, and where the air that is breathed will be clean, noble, and alive.

Such is my outlook. I look forward to a time when man shall progress upon something worthier and higher than his stomach, when there will be a finer incentive to impel men to action than the incentive of to-day, which is the incentive of the stomach. I retain my belief in the nobility and excellence of the human. I believe that spiritual sweetness and unselfishness will conquer the gross gluttony of to-day. And last of all, my faith is in the working-class. As some Frenchman has said, "The stairway of time is ever echoing with the wooden shoe going up, the polished boot descending."

https://www.online-literature.com/london/revolution/13/

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Because Socialism can't be democratic or because socialism compels the same values Democrats generaly stand for? ... marble falls Jun 2025 #1
As is often said..."keep it simple, stu_id." Just run as a Democrat, fight for policies that... brush Jun 2025 #65
There's no difference. The Rs will label and have already labeled Democrats as KPN Jun 2025 #80
President Truman said this in 1952 yellowdogintexas Jun 2025 #83
Why make it easy for them by actually calling ourself a socialist? Not smart. brush Jun 2025 #93
He didn't call himself a socialist. KPN Jun 2025 #123
Amen. Let's stop worrying about what they will say Redleg Jun 2025 #120
Me too. If I thought it could work, I'd go for all of us sharing wealth equally. LAS14 Jun 2025 #68
Socialism is not about equaly sharing everything, it's about giving everyone a chance and taking care of ... marble falls Jun 2025 #89
I know that. I'd go further. Like a religious order. nt LAS14 Jun 2025 #114
If democratic socialism Emile Jun 2025 #2
Exactly mvd Jun 2025 #9
Hey, you! Heidi Jun 2025 #30
Hey! mvd Jun 2025 #50
Anytime there are government employees The Wizard Jun 2025 #21
None of those things are socialist WSHazel Jun 2025 #81
Capitalism is a failure angrychair Jun 2025 #95
That is a strawman WSHazel Jun 2025 #96
I would offer angrychair Jun 2025 #97
That is not accurate WSHazel Jun 2025 #111
With respect, I must disagree. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #125
Good thoughts WSHazel Jul 2025 #126
"Art and culture were flourishing..." OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #129
This is why I find The Nordic Countries so interesting... electric_blue68 Jun 2025 #94
What's a socialist? n/t leftstreet Jun 2025 #3
That's a very good question, isn't it? -misanthroptimist Jun 2025 #5
Few if any people in the US are socialists. Lonestarblue Jun 2025 #14
This just-barely-a-Boomer has moved on, too. Heidi Jun 2025 #46
you are describing communism. n/t SonOfNebanaube Jun 2025 #51
No. The mass nationalization of industries by the UK Atlee government speak easy Jun 2025 #61
...free bus service ... ZDU Jun 2025 #59
Bet I can turn you into a "socialist" in just one thread! -misanthroptimist Jun 2025 #4
n/t Mike Nelson Jun 2025 #6
I'm a Democratic Socialist, not a Democrat. Autumn Jun 2025 #7
Im (gasp) both! SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #11
Is this declaration partisan or ideological? SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #8
Seems this declaration is mostly "Look at meeee!" Heidi Jun 2025 #47
I just wanna win. In It to Win It Jun 2025 #10
The "New Deal"and the "Better Deal" is Social Democracy. haele Jun 2025 #12
Judging the reactions, FDR would get trashed here AStern Jun 2025 #23
Criticism is good and frankly healthy. haele Jun 2025 #38
Well you're wrong, emulatorloo Jun 2025 #41
Then why the negativity toward Mamdani? AStern Jun 2025 #73
Most gross negativity is from deranged MAGA, not Democrats or DU'ers. A lot of Democrats have congratulated him. emulatorloo Jun 2025 #75
There are many here that are upset about it AStern Jun 2025 #76
Thank you emulatorloo Jun 2025 #82
I've seen more negativity here toward Mamdani... regnaD kciN Jun 2025 #86
You must have a sprinkle of Socialism to keep Capitalism Emile Jun 2025 #13
Yes, sounds a lot like FDR-type thinkin... smart!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2025 #101
That's nice, dear. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #15
Well, are you a vegetarian? David__77 Jun 2025 #16
The longer I live the more I prefer Democratic Socialism. The corrupt Capitalistic walkingman Jun 2025 #17
I remember back when MSNBC had numerous progressive anchors, gab13by13 Jun 2025 #20
I don't give a fuck. demmiblue Jun 2025 #18
labels are boring purple_haze Jun 2025 #19
Well, I'm not a fucking Republican. hamsterjill Jun 2025 #22
I believe in social democratic policies. Just never thought of making an OP stating that. N/t Nanjeanne Jun 2025 #24
Me too, which is why I'm here Polybius Jun 2025 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2025 #34
You're conflating a political party (our Democratic Party) w/ a multi-flavoured economic/political philosophy(socialism) Celerity Jul 2025 #127
I take it, then, you are against: Oneironaut Jun 2025 #26
As you know, those are all mainstream Democratic positions. emulatorloo Jun 2025 #40
And socialist targets as well. (nt) Heidi Jun 2025 #43
Mainstream, AND socialist! Oneironaut Jun 2025 #58
What would make you make those assumptions? Are those things copyrighted by the Socialist Party? Wonder Why Jun 2025 #54
Those things are not socialism. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #60
I think that's a fair point, actually. Oneironaut Jun 2025 #70
Those things are all socialism. Emile Jun 2025 #98
Good for you. Iggo Jun 2025 #27
What's a Democrat? AStern Jun 2025 #28
I'm a Socialist & a Democrat TacosUberAlles Jun 2025 #29
I woke up with this question in my head. 1WorldHope Jun 2025 #31
Read the room, hon. Heidi Jun 2025 #32
I'm both. ananda Jun 2025 #33
That's a strange flex. Jirel Jun 2025 #35
Hahahahahaha! Heidi Jun 2025 #44
I'm a Democrat and a Socialist. I know Democrats who are vegetarians. And Socialists who are carpenters. Ping Tung Jun 2025 #36
Every representative government has elements of socialism in it. patphil Jun 2025 #37
I'm a socialist who votes D bif Jun 2025 #39
Hear, HEAR ZDU Jun 2025 #55
We don't just need a Bigger economy, we need a Better economy thought crime Jun 2025 #42
Have to be to post here Arazi Jun 2025 #45
Same here LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2025 #48
By the People, For the People Troth_Aint_Truth Jun 2025 #49
Gosh. H2O Man Jun 2025 #52
As Am I OC375 Jun 2025 #53
So, if you had to choose between a Republican and a Democratic socialist, what would you do? 1WorldHope Jun 2025 #57
"Democratic Socialist" is not a ballot-line party, so it's impossible to vote for a Democratic Socialist candidate. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2025 #85
Would you prefer a medal, or simply applause? niyad Jun 2025 #56
We're all semi-socialist, every time we walk on a sidewalk or drive on a public road. Dan Jun 2025 #62
I'm a social democrat and a Democratic Party member (and literally a Social Democratic Party member here in Sweden, plus Celerity Jun 2025 #63
What's a Social Democrat??? SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2025 #100
Social democracy, especially the Nordic Model like we have here in Sweden. Celerity Jun 2025 #105
But do they throw good parties? SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2025 #106
This is going to be one of the questions fujiyamasan Jun 2025 #64
I'm a fellow traveler with the Democratic Party mike_c Jun 2025 #66
As I recall, MLK Jr. was called a socialist too... B.See Jun 2025 #67
MLK Jr was very much in the mode of Mamdani - democratic socialist. As far back as his Nanjeanne Jun 2025 #74
I know this. The point I'm making is B.See Jun 2025 #92
European Democratic Socialists are not Marxists... AntiFascist Jun 2025 #69
If you like having a fire department, snot Jun 2025 #71
Congrats? choie Jun 2025 #72
I'm a.member to a rural electric co-op. Yes it's socialism. Emile Jun 2025 #77
I'm a Democrat and a Socialist. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2025 #78
Ditto jcmaine72 Jun 2025 #91
You are a lot more socialist than you realize. bob4460 Jun 2025 #79
What Life Means to Me Cirsium Jun 2025 #84
Refuse to accept Social Security! H2O Man Jun 2025 #87
We really about to do it vanessa_ca Jun 2025 #88
I'm a Democrat AZProgressive Jun 2025 #90
I vote for the Democratic nominees Torchlight Jun 2025 #99
Let's see if that applies to everyone else by their voting for Mamdani for mayor as the duly elected Democratic nominee. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2025 #102
I figure there may be a few stirring the pot, but for the most part, Torchlight Jun 2025 #103
Thank you for this self-congratulatory thread. Heidi Jun 2025 #104
You're against Social Security? baddie Jun 2025 #107
It is not socialism. SS & Medicare are insurance programs that workers and employers pay into. Jacson6 Jun 2025 #108
Sorry! baddie Jun 2025 #110
We here in the Nordics (I live in Sweden) are NOT democratic socialist nation states. Celerity Jul 2025 #133
You seem to think that your dictionary... Chemical Bill Jul 2025 #124
Merriam Webster Dictionary: Socialism Jacson6 Jul 2025 #128
This message was self-deleted by its author Chemical Bill Jul 2025 #131
I apologize. Chemical Bill Jul 2025 #134
Social Security is socialism. Thanks for pointing Emile Jun 2025 #109
I paid into those programs for my entire working life mcar Jun 2025 #119
This message was self-deleted by its author Emile Jun 2025 #121
That's how democratic socialism works. Emile Jun 2025 #122
I'm a Democrat and a Socialist, and proud of being both obamanut2012 Jun 2025 #112
I care more about policies than I do about labels n/t markpkessinger Jun 2025 #113
Get over the scare word. If you say you are a democrat you will be called a socialist. Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #115
I am a Democrat and a Socialist nt JanMichael Jun 2025 #116
"I'm a Democrat and not a socialist." LudwigPastorius Jun 2025 #117
hmmm markie Jun 2025 #118
Bless you, DU. The tools you offer me to enhance my experience are appreciated. (nt) Duncan Grant Jul 2025 #130
I took a test that said GoodRaisin Jul 2025 #132
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