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102. The only way you can sway fascists is to go after their handlers, targeted protests at the homes of the tech bros

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Mon Jun 30, 2025, 02:56 PM

Jun 2025

the banksters, the rich elite supporters hiding in their gated neighborhoods. Follow the money.

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The massive, widespread American protests did nothing to deter GOP congress. [View all] Irish_Dem Jun 2025 OP

It's the tyranny of Republican minority rule. J_William_Ryan Jun 2025 #1

and many on our side thought they could just stay home. Meadowoak Jun 2025 #2

The No Kings protest wasn't about the Reconciliation Bill maxsolomon Jun 2025 #103

they don't give a fuck what we think Skittles Jun 2025 #3

The GOP could not care less about what voters think. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #4

It's easy to go against the will of the people kkmarie Jun 2025 #10

Agree. NCDem47 Jun 2025 #45

Because voting and numbers don't matter. The election was dirty and the GOP knows it too. Botany Jun 2025 #5

Exactly. Voters no longer matter. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #6

Just think of all the new ICE Agents they're hiring. Coming to a polling place near you? IcyPeas Jun 2025 #8

Yes Trump is hiring his own private goon squad. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #9

Get back to us when 'Kamala Harris might happen to mention it Ponietz Jun 2025 #18

I like flowers. Do you? Botany Jun 2025 #60

That's the intangible that we don't understand. Buddyzbuddy Jun 2025 #7

Perhaps they feel invincible because they know the voting has been rigged for them. Lonestarblue Jun 2025 #12

And we're not supposed to talk about it: you're being conspiratorial, there's no evidence, it won't stand up in court... sop Jun 2025 #14

Democrats are still winning elections. Also if the margins are big enough, they can't LymphocyteLover Jun 2025 #21

The protests were for our own solidarity. LuvLoogie Jun 2025 #11

Yes...deterring the MAGA monsters was never the point.. agingdem Jun 2025 #19

It's the ultimate point, but it takes 3.5% (10 million) in sustained protests & large-scales strikes and boycotts. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #53

Exactly, which is why it pisses me off rather intensely when someone says Ocelot II Jun 2025 #58

Naysayers, nihilists, and ultra-cynics want easy solutions. They are rampant here and are destructive. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #59

Thank you. Demonstrations foster unity, solidarity, and a bonding of our determination. Magoo48 Jun 2025 #25

Yes. Electrons are only rented, but live protestors on the streets are priceless. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #54

The Republicans have long been riding and encouraging a deep and negative vein in... Hugin Jun 2025 #13

Their main con is to yell and gnash that they represent and fight for these people when things like the OBBBA prove... Hugin Jun 2025 #16

It will get worse before it gets better. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2025 #15

The only thing that matters is the ballot box and I feel as if that's in jeopardy. Will we have an election or not? Vinca Jun 2025 #17

Oh, we'll have an "election" alright... llmart Jun 2025 #20

Of course we will have an election.The questioin is, will our vote count? Autumn Jun 2025 #40

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No it isn't a waste of time! DownriverDem Jun 2025 #24

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Oh they're working and must continue blubunyip Jun 2025 #29

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One sign among thousands --and you are personally offended? blubunyip Jun 2025 #42

They are handcuffing Senators and charging judges and killing ICE detainees but they are offended by a mean sign? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #52

No it is a sign that voting no longer matters. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #31

If voting doesn't matter, why is the GOP so afraid of its MAGA voters? Ocelot II Jun 2025 #57

Just want all the white folks DownriverDem Jun 2025 #23

We need to keep coming. barbtries Jun 2025 #26

Was that the goal? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2025 #28

What do you think the goal was? Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #34

I think there were a lot of different goals among participants and organizers, including simply organizing communities. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2025 #38

Yes but quite a few goals means more participants. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #39

What do you believe needs to be done happy feet Jun 2025 #64

It depends on the result you want. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2025 #66

Yes and it is our lawmakers' responsibility to point out what these citizens will lose under Trump. Passages Jun 2025 #30

If we have fair elections in 2026 and beyond, they'll face consequences. Vogon_Glory Jun 2025 #33

Yes our democracy is quite fragile. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #35

It wasn't for the GQP................... Lovie777 Jun 2025 #36

MAGA: The New NAZI Party Kid Berwyn Jun 2025 #37

I honestly didn't think that anyone expected the protests to deter the GOP's worship of him Orrex Jun 2025 #41

The Iraq protests were much larger RandiFan1290 Jun 2025 #43

Yes it was a hard lesson. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #46

Peaceful protests are ineffective against fascists Kaleva Jun 2025 #44

Yes we have learned that lesson. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #47

Fascists are worthless, but history teaches us that sustained large scale protests work. 3.5% (10 million). . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #55

History teaches us that violence is often needed to depose fascists Kaleva Jun 2025 #61

You are disputing research by Erica Chenoweth of Harvard. Non-violence succeeds twice as often as violence Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #63

That research isn't limited to fascist regimes Kaleva Jun 2025 #68

Authoritarian or anti-democratic, if your prefer. But that's not the key Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #72

Interesting! Kaleva Jun 2025 #75

I have the same reaction to DU. Great place. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2025 #76

I'm certainly not a scholar on this issue, but I suspect that ... Whiskeytide Jun 2025 #91

But it gave hope to the rest of us Mysterian Jun 2025 #48

I'm surprised no one has posted the protest are stupid, yet. Hotler Jun 2025 #49

I think we need to do massive boycotts. milestogo Jun 2025 #50

Good idea. Billionaires hate losing money. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #69

Mass calls for their reps and senators to resign might help SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #51

GOP leaders hate the public. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #73

If I may even go further and say "several" occasions. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #78

We hear the things they say to voters in public. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #83

Im sure theyd have killed more if they could. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #84

That wasn't their purpose. The purpose was solidarity. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #56

Solidarity is all fine and good. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #71

Got some suggestions? Ocelot II Jun 2025 #74

I have idea, but I am a rank amateur. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #85

There are 4 boxes of liberty NickB79 Jun 2025 #62

But, according to some... in comparison, a local town-hall or two would have magically fixed everything. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2025 #65

It's clear that ten years of publicity for the exact same populist message and strongly worded yelling rallies betsuni Jun 2025 #67

I agree. We need to stay unified. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #70

Worse than you think. Research shows that it's been that way for decades.... snot Jun 2025 #77

I agree, shutting down the money making via general strikes is a good idea. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #86

Not yet! The marches aren't coups. Easterncedar Jun 2025 #79

Protests don't work synni Jun 2025 #80

We didn't expect them to change the GOP. They were a warning. BWdem4life Jun 2025 #81

What is the next step? Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #87

Work stoppages. nt BWdem4life Jun 2025 #89

Yes and general strikes on purchases as well. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #90

Get much larger, more agressive crowds out. Take a look at how the Serbians and Hungarians have done. LARGE crowds ... marble falls Jun 2025 #82

This is what it will take here in the US as well. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #88

I do not think he has such tight control over the military. But we are going to have to wake RW America up. marble falls Jun 2025 #92

Trump has a way of "motivating" everyone. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #93

Nothing? Do listen to Rachel Maddow on Monday nights... Hekate Jun 2025 #94

I stand by my comments. The protests did nothing to deter the GOP from voting for the bill Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #95

Follow the money. Joinfortmill Jun 2025 #96

We don't know if we will have free elections again. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #98

Yup. Let's hope it isn't too late.. Joinfortmill Jun 2025 #99

Protests schmotests live love laugh Jun 2025 #97

I attended webinar this past week with Erica Chenoweth, the academic who studied how authoritarian summer_in_TX Jun 2025 #100

The media did a great job ignoring the protests AStern Jun 2025 #101

The only way you can sway fascists is to go after their handlers, targeted protests at the homes of the tech bros ImNotGod Jun 2025 #102