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cab67

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Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:09 PM Jun 2025

an email I just sent to a MAGA cousin of mine. [View all]

Last edited Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:19 AM - Edit history (3)

Nothing has happened to her yet, but she's panicking and asking for help. She's perpetually underemployed, has a history of making very poor decisions about her own finances, and has some health issues.


Added on edit: some have criticized my attitude, suggesting I should be more willing to help. Ordinarily, I'd agree with that point completely - but I left some context out to focus on a point relevant to DU. I've helped this person many times. So have others. Our help is likely to be wasted (as I said, she makes poor money decisions), and she's always happy to explain why all of us are foolish for being Democrats. This reflects my arrival at the "no more" point in my life as much as anything else.


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Dear Cousin,

I got your text earlier today asking us to put some money away in case you need it for your medical expenses. You’re concerned that Medicaid is about to be slashed and you might lose your coverage.

I’m responding by email because I want to say more than just “no.”

(This is where I included a paragraph detailing previous efforts to help, all of which came to nothing, and the behavior she's shown to me, and to other relatives, throughout our adult lives. I didn't include it here.)

You voted for Trump. You voted for every Republican on the ballot in your state. You brought this on yourself, and I'm not inclined to intervene.

Most likely, you knew they said they'd do this, but didn’t think they meant it. This means you lied yourself into making the biggest mistake any citizen of this country could have made in the modern era. They told you what they would do, but you voted for them anyway.

That, or you didn’t know they wanted to do this. Trump kept telling people Medicaid would be safe. In that case, you didn’t do enough research before casting a ballot. That’s even worse; it means you’re moving through life willingly ignorant of things that matter to you and expecting everyone else to clean up the mess you’ve helped create. That Trump cannot be trusted to tell the truth is now an objective fact and not a mere opinion, and pretty much every other Republican in Congress expressed a bloodthirst to kill the whole program. That includes the ones who are pretending they oppose it, now that it's in that abomination of a bill and they can read the polls.

I suppose there's a third possibility - that you knew this would happen, but assumed the rest of us would cover your losses because your desire to abduct immigrants, do whatever Netanyahu tells us, and raise tariffs that other countries - and not US consumers - would obviously pay outweighed any actual consequences you would personally face, and that because we're all a bunch of do-gooder libtards, we would be too soft-hearted to say "no." I always tell my grad students to check their assumptions BEFORE doing something that can't be reversed.

Sorry, but I can’t help you this time. I’m a lot closer to 60 than I care to think. I also have a young daughter, and my wife – though in good health – has encountered some medical problems. As have I. I have to put my immediate family first as a parent and spouse does, especially as costs rise while our salaries do not.

And even if I could, I wouldn't. Yeah, I’m one of those progressives who thinks we should help one another. But you know what? I’m also a realist and a pragmatist. I don’t have the resources to support you, given where I think the economy is going and what the White House is doing to the federal scientific organizations on which I’ve relied for my work. We’re saving for our daughter’s future and our own retirement, along with the unexpected expenses that arise from time to time. There is no hypocrisy in wanting to help people and expecting others to face the consequences of their actions.

You voted for the people who did this. This is what you wanted. I will not take away that which you asked for.

Sorry.

Oh - and did you ever get your kid immunized? Might be a smart thing to do; a vaccine is a whole lot cheaper than being treated for a serious illness, not to mention the work days you'll miss caring for your convalescing kid.

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Wow, I would steal that if I could. Except none of my relatives (that I know of) voted for Trump. Dan Jun 2025 #1
On point. sheshe2 Jun 2025 #2
K&R...let us know if you hear back. nt. druidity33 Jun 2025 #3
just one correction Skittles Jun 2025 #4
While that is true, soldierant Jun 2025 #14
Including hundreds of thousands of deaths Ilsa Jun 2025 #19
right Skittles Jun 2025 #23
just two more corrections JayW Jul 2025 #90
ding. x 1000 AllaN01Bear Jun 2025 #5
You exactly hit all the pertinent points DeeDeeNY Jun 2025 #6
Amen amen! This is the kindest smackdown I've read. When one makes a ancianita Jun 2025 #7
My late father would say... llmart Jul 2025 #65
Agree DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #92
+++. I might have changed "Oh - and did you ever get your kid immunized?" to "neutered". erronis Jun 2025 #8
Post removed Post removed Jun 2025 #9
That was a great reply. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #15
It allows no path to reconciliation. GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #21
with all due respect Skittles Jun 2025 #24
You must have wonderful family BBQs. GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #25
my family CARES about people other than themselves Skittles Jun 2025 #26
They certainly wouldn't admit it if you're making the potato salad! GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #27
*yawn* Skittles Jun 2025 #29
All I said was the poster should try to leave an opening for reconciliation with family members. GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #30
"Poor decisions run in the family." dpibel Jun 2025 #40
But that's the point not fooled Jun 2025 #41
Im lucky in that we're all slightlv Jul 2025 #45
I left out additional context to focus on an issue of broader interest to DU. cab67 Jul 2025 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #77
Sounds like the poster's patience and generosity blubunyip Jul 2025 #87
Path to reconciliation??? FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #36
Your family wants your destruction? GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #37
My maga brother posts all over FB that he hopes all liberals' children die. still-prayin4rain Jul 2025 #47
Wowzer. Abolishinist Jul 2025 #48
No, dad has passed away. still-prayin4rain Jul 2025 #97
I don't know about their family, but yes... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2025 #59
A word to the wise UniqueUserName Jul 2025 #63
I thought the letter was spot-on. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jul 2025 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #20
Good for You! DET Jun 2025 #10
Hope your cousin reflects on what you said Figarosmom Jun 2025 #11
You just made my day. LilElf70 Jun 2025 #12
No need to get nasty, surely? Aussie105 Jun 2025 #13
I didn't think it harsh at all. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #16
'Needs to be told' falls on deaf ears. Aussie105 Jun 2025 #18
No, they never learn. They'll double down instead. Meadowoak Jun 2025 #31
well they won't WORK IT OUT FOR THEMSELVES if you keep bailing them out Skittles Jun 2025 #32
Really?????? FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #33
hard to feel sorry for people who wished misfortune on others Skittles Jun 2025 #28
Nope. not fooled Jun 2025 #42
Stony silence doesn't really work with this particular cousin cab67 Jul 2025 #71
I would never turn my back on family, ever. purple_haze Jun 2025 #17
I've turned my back on tRumpster family, forever. I may be forced to live in a shithole fascist country but luckily I ImNotGod Jun 2025 #22
Same here. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #35
I wouldn't either, but voting Trump is just a deal breaker Meadowoak Jun 2025 #38
It's a difficult choice. But these are not normal times. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #58
You're lucky to live in a family where that's a reasonable expectation . cab67 Jul 2025 #86
Righteous K & R Emile Jun 2025 #34
I might have added FuzzyRabbit Jun 2025 #39
FAFO flags for anyone to copy. usonian Jun 2025 #43
F.A.F.O. K & R Dem4life1970 Jul 2025 #44
So well written, almost makes me wish I had a MAGAt family member Abolishinist Jul 2025 #46
That just sounds mean Grumpy Old Woman Jul 2025 #49
Agreed. And then to post it on a public forum? Really? Is this something to boast about? Doodley Jul 2025 #52
It gives other people courage to shed those toxic family members. GoneOffShore Jul 2025 #53
THIS! times 1000 Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #79
I'm not boasting. cab67 Jul 2025 #73
LOL Skittles Jul 2025 #54
Respectfully disagree.. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #57
I've helped her financially many times in the past. cab67 Jul 2025 #67
I don't think it is mean PatSeg Jul 2025 #76
I read the original post and nowhere did he indicate that he hated that person.... Dan Jul 2025 #98
I remember when the #1 tune in the Republican Hymnal was: BurnDoubt Jul 2025 #50
Nasty. Doodley Jul 2025 #51
yes, VERY nasty voting for Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Jul 2025 #55
Wow. Needed to be said. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #56
Outstanding. Should be used as a template by the rest of us in dealing with MAGA relations. Paladin Jul 2025 #60
Very eloquent. mdbl Jul 2025 #61
Reading stuff like this Littlered Jul 2025 #64
Please note - cab67 Jul 2025 #68
I can totally relate to that. Littlered Jul 2025 #85
The MAGAts in my life are rude and obnoxious in their support of Traitor Arazi Jul 2025 #72
OP was not just addressing 'voting preference' but a life of mooching but never changing behavior Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #81
We all need to fight what is going on in whatever way we can. BoomaofBandM Jul 2025 #66
Correct. ancianita Jul 2025 #84
Well written but..... LPBBEAR Jul 2025 #70
At this point, communicating with these folks is probably useless dedl67 Jul 2025 #74
I'm ready to send something like this tonekat Jul 2025 #75
Adult child of an alcoholic here and I have long thought the entire nation needs to attend CODA meetings Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #78
Perfect letter to a MAGA with their hand out. Martin68 Jul 2025 #80
Sounds good and on point, to me. Jay25 Jul 2025 #82
Thank you for replying to her like this.... OhioBack2Blue Jul 2025 #83
I don't blame you at all. Please let us know if she responds. LauraInLA Jul 2025 #88
Hopefully, the rest of the family will stollen Jul 2025 #89
"you knew this would happen, but assumed the rest of us would cover your losses" Grokenstein Jul 2025 #91
the sheer audacity Skittles Jul 2025 #93
Brilliant. PittBlue Jul 2025 #94
You owe her nothing XanaDUer2 Jul 2025 #95
Well written, CAB67. It's a shame that we all seem to have relatives in the woodwork that seem to be of this nature, SWBTATTReg Jul 2025 #96
I feel ya. My MAGAt relatives are actually Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2025 #99
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