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cab67

(3,644 posts)
69. I left out additional context to focus on an issue of broader interest to DU.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:56 AM
Jul 2025

I've helped this person repeatedly. So have other relatives. But the help is always a one-way street, and the help is often wasted, requiring even more help within days.

Her nephew once took out a bank loan specifically to help her. MAGA cousin promised to pay him back. The rest of us urged him not to do so - there's no way she could ever pay him back, even if she actually intended to do so - but he took the "never turn your back on family" approach. He's out the $10k he borrowed.

Sometimes, turning one's back on someone is a matter of self preservation. I pointed this out in the email I sent - I can't keep giving this person money without risking our ability to deal with emergencies. Ill-intended family members can also sow discord among relatives and ruin every family event they attend.

I should also add that when Jinglesphincter's people went after federal science support, dear cousin cheered. Finally - no more money wasted on climate change, evolution, or creating transgender rodents! As far as she was concerned, those who became scientists made bad life choices. (The irony of that attitude is dense enough that light can't escape its surface.) When I pointed out that I rely on NSF for much of my research funding, she merely said that this was a good thing - it would encourage me to abandon conspiracy-driven liberal ideology (as though evolution and biotic response to environmental change - two things I work with - are Marxist plots to redistribute wealth and lead our youth astray and not, you know, physical reality) and maybe get a real job for once. This isn't the first time she showed nauseating levels of condescension, only to point out that she needed my money.

There comes a point where enough is enough. Need help? Happy to provide it - but I would appreciate some courtesy in return, and I take great exception to having it diverted to something frivolous and not applied to the new refrigerator you actually need.

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Wow, I would steal that if I could. Except none of my relatives (that I know of) voted for Trump. Dan Jun 2025 #1
On point. sheshe2 Jun 2025 #2
K&R...let us know if you hear back. nt. druidity33 Jun 2025 #3
just one correction Skittles Jun 2025 #4
While that is true, soldierant Jun 2025 #14
Including hundreds of thousands of deaths Ilsa Jun 2025 #19
right Skittles Jun 2025 #23
just two more corrections JayW Jul 2025 #90
ding. x 1000 AllaN01Bear Jun 2025 #5
You exactly hit all the pertinent points DeeDeeNY Jun 2025 #6
Amen amen! This is the kindest smackdown I've read. When one makes a ancianita Jun 2025 #7
My late father would say... llmart Jul 2025 #65
Agree DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #92
+++. I might have changed "Oh - and did you ever get your kid immunized?" to "neutered". erronis Jun 2025 #8
Post removed Post removed Jun 2025 #9
That was a great reply. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #15
It allows no path to reconciliation. GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #21
with all due respect Skittles Jun 2025 #24
You must have wonderful family BBQs. GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #25
my family CARES about people other than themselves Skittles Jun 2025 #26
They certainly wouldn't admit it if you're making the potato salad! GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #27
*yawn* Skittles Jun 2025 #29
All I said was the poster should try to leave an opening for reconciliation with family members. GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #30
"Poor decisions run in the family." dpibel Jun 2025 #40
But that's the point not fooled Jun 2025 #41
Im lucky in that we're all slightlv Jul 2025 #45
I left out additional context to focus on an issue of broader interest to DU. cab67 Jul 2025 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #77
Sounds like the poster's patience and generosity blubunyip Jul 2025 #87
Path to reconciliation??? FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #36
Your family wants your destruction? GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #37
My maga brother posts all over FB that he hopes all liberals' children die. still-prayin4rain Jul 2025 #47
Wowzer. Abolishinist Jul 2025 #48
No, dad has passed away. still-prayin4rain Jul 2025 #97
I don't know about their family, but yes... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2025 #59
A word to the wise UniqueUserName Jul 2025 #63
I thought the letter was spot-on. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jul 2025 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author GladysKravitz Jun 2025 #20
Good for You! DET Jun 2025 #10
Hope your cousin reflects on what you said Figarosmom Jun 2025 #11
You just made my day. LilElf70 Jun 2025 #12
No need to get nasty, surely? Aussie105 Jun 2025 #13
I didn't think it harsh at all. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #16
'Needs to be told' falls on deaf ears. Aussie105 Jun 2025 #18
No, they never learn. They'll double down instead. Meadowoak Jun 2025 #31
well they won't WORK IT OUT FOR THEMSELVES if you keep bailing them out Skittles Jun 2025 #32
Really?????? FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #33
hard to feel sorry for people who wished misfortune on others Skittles Jun 2025 #28
Nope. not fooled Jun 2025 #42
Stony silence doesn't really work with this particular cousin cab67 Jul 2025 #71
I would never turn my back on family, ever. purple_haze Jun 2025 #17
I've turned my back on tRumpster family, forever. I may be forced to live in a shithole fascist country but luckily I ImNotGod Jun 2025 #22
Same here. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2025 #35
I wouldn't either, but voting Trump is just a deal breaker Meadowoak Jun 2025 #38
It's a difficult choice. But these are not normal times. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #58
You're lucky to live in a family where that's a reasonable expectation . cab67 Jul 2025 #86
Righteous K & R Emile Jun 2025 #34
I might have added FuzzyRabbit Jun 2025 #39
FAFO flags for anyone to copy. usonian Jun 2025 #43
F.A.F.O. K & R Dem4life1970 Jul 2025 #44
So well written, almost makes me wish I had a MAGAt family member Abolishinist Jul 2025 #46
That just sounds mean Grumpy Old Woman Jul 2025 #49
Agreed. And then to post it on a public forum? Really? Is this something to boast about? Doodley Jul 2025 #52
It gives other people courage to shed those toxic family members. GoneOffShore Jul 2025 #53
THIS! times 1000 Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #79
I'm not boasting. cab67 Jul 2025 #73
LOL Skittles Jul 2025 #54
Respectfully disagree.. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #57
I've helped her financially many times in the past. cab67 Jul 2025 #67
I don't think it is mean PatSeg Jul 2025 #76
I read the original post and nowhere did he indicate that he hated that person.... Dan Jul 2025 #98
I remember when the #1 tune in the Republican Hymnal was: BurnDoubt Jul 2025 #50
Nasty. Doodley Jul 2025 #51
yes, VERY nasty voting for Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Jul 2025 #55
Wow. Needed to be said. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #56
Outstanding. Should be used as a template by the rest of us in dealing with MAGA relations. Paladin Jul 2025 #60
Very eloquent. mdbl Jul 2025 #61
Reading stuff like this Littlered Jul 2025 #64
Please note - cab67 Jul 2025 #68
I can totally relate to that. Littlered Jul 2025 #85
The MAGAts in my life are rude and obnoxious in their support of Traitor Arazi Jul 2025 #72
OP was not just addressing 'voting preference' but a life of mooching but never changing behavior Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #81
We all need to fight what is going on in whatever way we can. BoomaofBandM Jul 2025 #66
Correct. ancianita Jul 2025 #84
Well written but..... LPBBEAR Jul 2025 #70
At this point, communicating with these folks is probably useless dedl67 Jul 2025 #74
I'm ready to send something like this tonekat Jul 2025 #75
Adult child of an alcoholic here and I have long thought the entire nation needs to attend CODA meetings Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #78
Perfect letter to a MAGA with their hand out. Martin68 Jul 2025 #80
Sounds good and on point, to me. Jay25 Jul 2025 #82
Thank you for replying to her like this.... OhioBack2Blue Jul 2025 #83
I don't blame you at all. Please let us know if she responds. LauraInLA Jul 2025 #88
Hopefully, the rest of the family will stollen Jul 2025 #89
"you knew this would happen, but assumed the rest of us would cover your losses" Grokenstein Jul 2025 #91
the sheer audacity Skittles Jul 2025 #93
Brilliant. PittBlue Jul 2025 #94
You owe her nothing XanaDUer2 Jul 2025 #95
Well written, CAB67. It's a shame that we all seem to have relatives in the woodwork that seem to be of this nature, SWBTATTReg Jul 2025 #96
I feel ya. My MAGAt relatives are actually Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2025 #99
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