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markodochartaigh

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32. First of all,
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:00 PM
Jul 2025

about one third of the population couldn't be bothered to vote against a known authoritarian Strong Leader. As long as they get their hamberders and sportsball they really don't care. The authoritarian Republicans just need to make sure that there are enough hamberders and sportsball to satisfy them until the system is completely rigged by gerrymandering and disenfranchisement.

Of the two thirds who do care one way or the other at this point, almost half do not want the US to become an authoritarian state.

But about one third really do want an authoritarian state, whether it is a White nationalist state, a corporatocracy run by our oiligarchs, a theocracy run of, by, and for, religious leaders, or they just want a Strong Leader in charge.

Of this third about 80% are authoritarian followers and about 20% are authoritarian leaders. Trump's actions have generally had about an 80% approval rate among Republicans. After the failed coup attempt his approval dropped to about 40%, but when it became obvious that he wasn't going to be held accountable it rose to its baseline. About 20% of Republicans don't like Trump, either because he is a buffoon, because he is a liability to the party, or because he wants to muscle in on their profits. But that 20% is willing to go along with Trump because he is necessary for them to remain in power, and now, out of fear, physical and electoral.

It is very difficult for many people who live in blue areas, who are upper or upper-middle class, well-educated, who know corporate Republicans from social and business organizations to believe just how many extreme right-wing people there are across the country, or how right-wing these people are. But it is probably a waste of time to argue about numbers when we are so close to the precipice. Surely we can all agree that need to act is dire.

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We are losing [View all] WSHazel Jul 2025 OP
Nope................... Lovie777 Jul 2025 #1
That's one opinion -misanthroptimist Jul 2025 #2
Not a good try. Kingofalldems Jul 2025 #3
You think everything is great? iemanja Jul 2025 #37
Depressing ChazII Jul 2025 #4
My post is an assessment, not a concession WSHazel Jul 2025 #8
The Democrats need to do more than just opposing Trump. everyonematters Jul 2025 #5
We need to stop blaming the "leadership" WSHazel Jul 2025 #15
What is the economic agenda of the Democratic Party? Warren is not in the leadership. Jeffries and Schumer are. everyonematters Jul 2025 #19
They need to do something like the Contract with America. writerJT Jul 2025 #25
Agree. everyonematters Jul 2025 #28
Harris had piles of good policies WSHazel Jul 2025 #29
Harris couldn't and didn't communicate Melon Jul 2025 #55
lol bigtree Jul 2025 #57
Have you listened to Trump? WSHazel Jul 2025 #59
I'm well aware of Trump. Melon Jul 2025 #60
Perhaps you weren't paying attention. Understandable as Republican lies are promoted by media emulatorloo Jul 2025 #61
That is hogwash... PunkinPi Jul 2025 #65
The Democratic Party right now is the most rudderless it has been in my entire life. Midwestern Democrat Jul 2025 #30
You can't stop fascism with "a plan". Initech Jul 2025 #33
Perfection is the enemy bottomofthehill Jul 2025 #6
I can live with a Democratic Socialist in certain positions WSHazel Jul 2025 #9
When AOC first appeared, she was treated much like Mamdani thought crime Jul 2025 #43
Mamdani is not AOC WSHazel Jul 2025 #44
And AOC endorses Mamdani thought crime Jul 2025 #47
NYC is a rich city WSHazel Jul 2025 #48
They're NOT gonna leave. Trust me. DinahMoeHum Jul 2025 #54
Do you support trickle-down economics? thought crime Jul 2025 #62
I disagree with your framing WSHazel Jul 2025 #63
You have some good ideas. thought crime Jul 2025 #64
It isn't just the candidates, it's the agenda thought crime Jul 2025 #42
Where is the Democratic Party gaining? WSHazel Jul 2025 #53
We chase after the working class who want their Emile Jul 2025 #56
Show me any evidence that matters WSHazel Jul 2025 #58
There haven't been many elections but we have been winning JI7 Jul 2025 #7
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #10
I think the big place we are losing is in the media progressoid Jul 2025 #11
That is part of it WSHazel Jul 2025 #12
Exactly! "They just don't care." That's the key 0rganism Jul 2025 #31
Luckily, most folks don't watch the MSM these days (according to polls). I get news from the BBC and other streamers. wcmagumba Jul 2025 #27
Yeah, cause reality is just grand. iemanja Jul 2025 #39
yeah, yeah....sky is falling democratsruletheday Jul 2025 #13
Yes, let's ignore what's going on iemanja Jul 2025 #40
I don't disagree. edhopper Jul 2025 #14
Fear talk won't help us now. Glad you're waking up to the moral depravity of this reality, though. ancianita Jul 2025 #16
I have been awake the whole time WSHazel Jul 2025 #17
Where money can be made & people can be bought, nothing is a guardrail, including the "market." ancianita Jul 2025 #18
Put a pin in this point WSHazel Jul 2025 #23
45% kwolf68 Jul 2025 #20
Nate Silver WSHazel Jul 2025 #22
First of all, markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #32
I think most people if something doesn't Tree Lady Jul 2025 #21
Trump crows about how many he is deporting, he doesnt crow "im killing America's science infrastructure" Demovictory9 Jul 2025 #35
that happens when you hand the entire governement over to psychopaths Skittles Jul 2025 #24
I post JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #26
They support deportations, removal of DEI. Hurti..they dond understand that trump is destroying Science, democracy, etc Demovictory9 Jul 2025 #34
"Remember those halcyon days when Democrats weren't yet disappeared off the street and sent to New Andersonville?" LudwigPastorius Jul 2025 #36
Bye bye orangecrush Jul 2025 #38
The usa will never in my lifetime quakerboy Jul 2025 #41
The lies go along way! imanamerican63 Jul 2025 #45
The Failure of Centrism Emile Jul 2025 #46
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #49
Good morning Emile Jul 2025 #50
That cartoon needs updating TommyT139 Jul 2025 #51
LOL 😂 Emile Jul 2025 #52
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