BULLSHIT that it's a victory. Let's get our compasses straight as Democrats.

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76. Please do not remind us of the HC debacle. If you think progressives were not

right about that, then we are living on different planets. We LOST in the HC debate and we never needed to.

DADT. Well, let's see. That SHOULD have been passed in Jan of 2009. It was one of the easiest bills to get support on the first day of the new Congress when Dems controlled everything and even some Repubs were for it.

So, what happened? At every turn the Obama administration blocked efforts to end that discriminatory law. Going so far as to try challenge a court ruling stating, correctly, that it was unconstitutional.

And why was this allowed to happen? Well, yes we do know how politics is played. Coming up to the election we were told that there would be no discussion of DADT during the election season and oddly, no discussion of ending the Bush Tax Cuts.

If you think people did not know what was going on, you could not be more wrong.

They held up DADT in order to use it to pretend to the base that they could not get it passed (Lame Duck Congress again) unless they allowed the Bush Tax Cuts to be extended.

What a cynical way to deal with something so important.

What SHOULD have happened is that DADT should have passed in Jan 2009 and the Bush Tax Cuts should have been allowed to expire.

Which means that some Dems WANTED to extend the Bush Tax Cuts and used DADT to pretend they had or lose on that legislation.

Yes, we know how politics work. They are not working for US.

Now we have CTS floating around that Dems are playing games with SS. I'll say this, even if that was the case, it is a vile thing to do.

Maybe to THEM, the wealthy politicians we keep foolishly reelecting playing games with SS is just fine. Well, it is not and I don't know a single person who is buying this fantasy.