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union_maid

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29. Not exactly

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:03 AM

Dec 2012

I think there are a lot of factors involved. The ages of the children and the number of them is the number one thing. Just executing a whole classroom of little children is about as shocking a crime as there is. Another is that the nation has pretty much had it. These things are happening one after another, it seems and this was a tipping point in a way. I think another factor might be that the place - this little town in CT - seems like the epitome of safe places to be a raise a family and it's still a sad fact that a place like that is more likely to be mostly white than not. If the places that look like our idealized memories of a more innocent time aren't safe, then there might be a feeling that our backs are really against the wall now.

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Is Newtown Making Such News Because The Kids Are Mostly White? [View all] Kennah Dec 2012 OP

there is no denying that blonde, blue-eyed children bring more publicity Skittles Dec 2012 #1

Yes, obviously. Here is the pecking order BlueStreak Dec 2012 #91

No, I think it has more to do with Lionessa Dec 2012 #2

this was before the internet and all the 24 hour news channels JI7 Dec 2012 #3

Of course! tblue Dec 2012 #4

GMTA! I totally agree............. TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #106

Milk this tragedy? Bake Dec 2012 #127

Yes and No Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #5

Race probably does have something to do with it but there are other factors even more important Fumesucker Dec 2012 #6

I remember very clearly the Stockton coverage exboyfil Dec 2012 #7

The Atlanta child murders received so much... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #75

A black serial killer preying on blacks? Snoozefest. Quantess Dec 2012 #89

The killer's race/identity was unknown until he was, you know, caught. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #116

Are you arguing that anyone cared before then? Quantess Dec 2012 #121

I don't remember even wondering about the race of the killer Thirties Child Dec 2012 #126

1989 vs 2012 qanda Dec 2012 #8

This Egnever Dec 2012 #112

It is because there were so many and they were so young. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #9

If twenty kids at an all-black orphanage for troubled children were shot... Posteritatis Dec 2012 #10

White and rich is certainly a factor, but the usual daily death toll, though bigger, is spread out Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #11

Disgusting OP. How about that IT WAS THE WORST MASS SHOOTING? Do you NOT remember ATLANTA? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #12

It wasn't the worst mass shooting. and even if it were, there had already been a "worst mass HiPointDem Dec 2012 #15

So what is the OP's point, exactly? Only white people make the news? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #119

This. And, I remember the worldwide horror at young girls killed in Birmingham church… txwhitedove Dec 2012 #17

Yes - the church bombing was shocking. RoverSuswade Dec 2012 #131

Virginia Tech is the worst mass school shooting obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #18

Fine. It isn't exactly like Va. Tech went under the radar. The OP is STILL VILE. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #118

No. Let's see, yesterday an op complaining that the MSM isn't covering Newtown cali Dec 2012 #13

No. It's because they were six and seven years old. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #14

and a week (give or take) before Christmas. FSogol Dec 2012 #20

To be honest it's really hard to tell if this incident brings more coverage lunatica Dec 2012 #16

No, and this is offensive, race-baiting garbage. Shame on you (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #19

+1 n/t FSogol Dec 2012 #21

+1 Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #36

Bullshit Cal Carpenter Dec 2012 #62

You're right...it's a sickening OP joeybee12 Dec 2012 #63

it is what it is Mr Dixon Dec 2012 #22

It is because they were little children. Justice Dec 2012 #23

It's probably a mix of factors gollygee Dec 2012 #24

They are making news because they are dead. Skidmore Dec 2012 #25

1... Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #26

Thanks for the early morning dehumanization BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #27

Please don't go there....kids are kids, regardless of race. Please delete this thread. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #28

Not exactly union_maid Dec 2012 #29

Good Morning Union_Maid. Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #34

I agree with this post... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #30

Agreed Mr Dixon Dec 2012 #33

More than 20 children killed in Chicago every day? And no one cares? Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #37

Go read a Chicago paper...become informed. Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #68

"That many and more are killed in Chicago every day". 20 kids are murdered in Chicago every day? Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #38

Go read a paper...let I said go do some research.... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #69

Too Convenient ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #124

I did not make anything up and even if one child... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #133

You're right, but are those kids in Chicago gunned down inside of their classrooms.. I think that's rainlillie Dec 2012 #46

Then my question would be... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #70

No it's not. Actually I would have agreed with you a few weeks ago. vaberella Dec 2012 #74

Bringing race into something like this is bad enough ... Lurker Deluxe Dec 2012 #51

And I ask why does "how many" died matter if... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #71

Except few of those murdered are small children Nikia Dec 2012 #100

You are wrong, and signifying about these children... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #109

I never said that most minority youth were in gangs Nikia Dec 2012 #120

Acting as if race has NOTHING to do with it relative to the facts is a conservative way of approachi uponit7771 Dec 2012 #81

The Eminem theory Recursion Dec 2012 #31

Maybe if you had spent a little more time searching Confusious Dec 2012 #32

Ah, race baiting. Where would DU be without someone churning the mud. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #35

Yeah, because Trayvon Martin was blue-eyed and blonde. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #39

They did ignore him until activist got involved!! You prove the OPs point in this post alone uponit7771 Dec 2012 #82

The Trayvon Martin case didn't get attention until African American activist got involved.. People rainlillie Dec 2012 #47

BULLSHIT! Sharpton and Jackson became involved BECAUSE it was getting attention. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #56

If it weren't for his family contacting Al and others the story would NOT have gone national rainlillie Dec 2012 #57

Thank God for Revs. Jackson and Sharpton for raising my awareness. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #60

Cool beans! rainlillie Dec 2012 #61

Your sarcasm is sad...because you know the real truth... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #72

Yep. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #83

It did prepare the ground for other reactions to shooting Bad Thoughts Dec 2012 #66

Nope, it's because it hit to close to home for members of the news media tularetom Dec 2012 #40

I have been thinking the same thing Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #44

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2012 #84

Good point. But class and race are strongly correlated. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #92

Seems I had read before about the media bias to select white victims especially kidnap victims Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #41

you had to really work to make this theory even appear to fly. nt seabeyond Dec 2012 #42

This is why we need the unrec back. FSogol Dec 2012 #43

I never underestimate the racism within the MSM, that said.. rainlillie Dec 2012 #45

I think a big part of it is their age. With Columbine and other school shooters, they were older, Brickbat Dec 2012 #48

No. I think it's their age. If a mass school shooting happened in New Haven, Bridgeport or Hartford Jennicut Dec 2012 #49

i think it's mostly because they are dead. spanone Dec 2012 #50

It's already bad enough! And you have to bring race into it and change the conversation? For shame! Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #52

That incident did make news, and cause gun control to occur, which subsequent incidents have not. So still_one Dec 2012 #55

Thank you, is everyone trying to give the NRA a way out by changing the topic. JohLast Dec 2012 #80

Do you think it might be that 20 6-7 year olds were shot 11 times each? budkin Dec 2012 #53

Gun Control California: Stockton School Shooting In 1989 Was Catalyst For Gun Control still_one Dec 2012 #54

I think it's the internet and the different ways it is used. Sunlei Dec 2012 #58

Possibly treestar Dec 2012 #59

your question doesn't seem like race baiting at all to me renate Dec 2012 #64

Thank you for reason and truth....all these things do matter... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #77

It is wrong to analyze a horrible tragedy in such a way. Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #65

THANK YOU JohLast Dec 2012 #78

Its even worse to turn away from the facts and act as if they don't exist uponit7771 Dec 2012 #86

I really don't think so with respect to the amount of coverage. NCTraveler Dec 2012 #67

I've been saying that for days. Even some of the parents and neighbors subscribed to the racism. vaberella Dec 2012 #73

that is a natural reaction to shock. cali Dec 2012 #79

The initial reaction would have been the same, but Quantess Dec 2012 #85

uh, no you can't guarantee that. And you're wrong. History demonstrates that. cali Dec 2012 #90

25 years ago, mass shootings were not as common. Quantess Dec 2012 #96

Actually that is not a natural reaction. I would never ever ever say that. vaberella Dec 2012 #122

it certainly is a natural reaction. you are justwrong and furthermore cali Dec 2012 #129

No it's not a natural reaction. vaberella Dec 2012 #132

****EXACTLY***** "This doesn't happen here = we're different from those other places" uponit7771 Dec 2012 #87

I disagree cali Dec 2012 #93

How many people are interested in a serial killer who kills +/- 42 black women? Quantess Dec 2012 #76

Not even...what if it was White female. n/t vaberella Dec 2012 #123

I personally think white male victims would be even greater cause for a freak-out than white females Quantess Dec 2012 #125

no H2O Man Dec 2012 #88

No Denying Race is Part of the Issue-- Iggy Dec 2012 #94

I think a lot of this has to do with proximity to the nation press... WCGreen Dec 2012 #95

You've got it backwards, I think. This DOES deserve all the attention it's gotten. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #97

Yes. n/t dogknob Dec 2012 #98

Only in part Tab Dec 2012 #99

As an African American I don't care if they were striped or polka dot underthematrix Dec 2012 #101

It's a combination of factors. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #102

"Solid red"? Newtown is in a (D) US House district. alp227 Dec 2012 #110

Uhh... I was talking about Newtown, not the District DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #113

No and I think this is race baiting. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #103

I think it is the number and the ages that made it different life long demo Dec 2012 #104

Yes and No. Remember that back in 1989, there was really no internet and the flow of news was madinmaryland Dec 2012 #105

Age has more to do with it than race.... Mdterp01 Dec 2012 #107

Thinking About This Question WiffenPoof Dec 2012 #108

I don't know the answer to this and many other questions thucythucy Dec 2012 #111

Mostly white affluent community n/t doc03 Dec 2012 #114

WTF? Hello? Maybe it has something to do with 20 young children getting slaughtered Zorra Dec 2012 #115

uh, we didn't have social media and twenty-four hour news channels were just getting started in 1989 ibegurpard Dec 2012 #117

Is the Pope Catholic? nt valerief Dec 2012 #128

Not this time. agent46 Dec 2012 #130