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RandomNumbers

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13. I agree that its rhetorical effectiveness is limited. (SS tax deduction)
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 12:27 PM
Jul 2025

But for a progressive, the FACT is that the people who need to benefit, WON'T. It is a giant scam.

Some people will benefit, sure. And the sad fact is that we need any votes we get from that demographic. But at the same time, it takes money OUT of the SS trust fund, thus hastening the time that a real reckoning for Social Security will be required - and since we cannot trust Congress to get it done, I expect MY benefits to be reduced when I most need them.

The SS thing, as written, is bad policy and WILL HURT PEOPLE. But - trying to explain it is too intricate. That is why it works for the repukes.

Discussing it here - where hopefully we are all willing to consider the intricacies - is different than using it in a campaign ad. IMO Dems should really not talk about this unless asked directly. If asked, they should be fair in describing both the costs and benefits for the audience to which they are speaking.

I am not speaking here about the other items you mention, they each have their own pros and cons. If I am right about the OT thing, it will be another thumb on the scale against proper staffing in support areas at my company. Oh well, what is a little more pain for me, after all? But more importantly, I haven't researched that yet, and my understanding could be mistaken.

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It's not true. And SSA should NOT be wasting OUR money sending out polticial propaganda. CousinIT Jul 2025 #1
Not true. Lies and propaganda. Lots of du posts and msm posts. cbabe Jul 2025 #2
It's definitely hyperbole and lies. However, it is true that less people will pay tax on SS. Ain't much of a savings Silent Type Jul 2025 #3
Some people will pay less tax. RandomNumbers Jul 2025 #6
More people will pay less tax. That's a fact. Other people -- who make very high income -- will continue to pay tax. Silent Type Jul 2025 #8
I agree that its rhetorical effectiveness is limited. (SS tax deduction) RandomNumbers Jul 2025 #13
This is a reduction SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #15
Yes, it does impact the trust fund, RandomNumbers Jul 2025 #16
Thank you for the correction! SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #17
Very disappointed in our Dems on this issue gulliver Jul 2025 #20
Lol. It's total propaganda. haele Jul 2025 #4
Yes we received an email like that and Dan Jul 2025 #5
Propaganda. I just deleted it. MineralMan Jul 2025 #7
I got it also. Trump propaganda, like when he signed Ilsa Jul 2025 #9
Unless you made more that 22k or something in addition to Klarkashton Jul 2025 #10
I'm retired but my spouse is still working MichMan Jul 2025 #11
I got the same thing, seems it's from the legit SSA site. TheBlackAdder Jul 2025 #12
I deleted it. roamer65 Jul 2025 #14
I am almost positive the Social Security Administration never PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2025 #18
Big Balls has been busy... Hugin Jul 2025 #19
I got the same email LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #21
I got it, too. It's bullshit. Every arm of the government is now a propaganda machine for Dear Leader. Vinca Jul 2025 #22
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