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In reply to the discussion: What is wrong with the tax cut for SS recipients. Although I will save [View all]Wiz Imp
(8,560 posts)23. Not really. According to The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget
We estimate that the extension and expansion of the 2017 tax cuts, the expanded senior deduction, and other OBBBA changes would reduce total taxation of benefits by roughly $30 billion per year. This would be enough to accelerate insolvency of the Social Security Old-Age and Survivors (OASI) trust fund from early 2033 to late 2032
https://www.crfb.org/blogs/obbba-would-accelerate-social-security-medicare-insolvency
So it would make the difference of a few months at most which is not significant. A recession could easily cause a much bigger change in the time frame.
I'm not convinced that their analysis is even necessarily. The bill did NOT change the amount of SS Benefits which are taxed at all. The bill doesn't even mention SS Benefits. The extra deduction for those 65 and over (which is just temporary) reduces the TOTAL income which is taxed, NOT just SS benefits. While The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that reduction to the SS Trust fund would be $30 billion, it's not clear it would necessarily be that much. Since, the deduction is to TOTAL income, how do they determine how much of the lost revenue comes from the SS Trust fund vs the General Fund?
Regardless, any lost revenue would be a relative pittance compare to the $1.7 trillion total which is collected annually by the trust fund.
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In my view the strategy is even shorter than that. Both the no taxes on social security, and the no tax on
lostincalifornia
Jul 2025
#20
The bill does not eliminate nor directly reduce taxes on Social Security Benefits
Wiz Imp
Jul 2025
#27
It gives some seniors an addition deduction on their tax returns. Ultimately it means ...
CousinIT
Jul 2025
#60
Those that currently pay taxes on social security, would get those taxes back in the form of a credit on their
lostincalifornia
Jul 2025
#33
Kamala Harris is our duly elected president, and I'm pretty sure everyone knows it deep in their hearts.
BComplex
Jul 2025
#14
Yes, but it only applied to higher income beneficiaries, not those with modest incomes, and was part of the
lostincalifornia
Jul 2025
#22
Republicans hate Social Security, they've hated it from the beginning. They've done their best to try and destroy it.
Walleye
Jul 2025
#7
No, it does NOT take any funding from SS. In fact it has nothing to do with SS.
lostnfound
Jul 2025
#12
? Taxes paid on Social Security DO go back into the Soc Security Trust Fund, not the treasury..
CousinIT
Jul 2025
#61
It is a Machiavelli con along with the "no tax on tips", both set to expire in 2028 when trump's term ends.
lostincalifornia
Jul 2025
#13
No. Because of the bill being a reconciliation bill they actually could not touch the SS trust fund, so they...
Ol Janx Spirit
Jul 2025
#21
True, but it's being used to claim that Dear Leader in his mercy has removed the tax on SS income.
Ocelot II
Jul 2025
#36
But there are also millions of people under 65 collecting SS benefits who get no tax breaks at all from this bill.
Wiz Imp
Jul 2025
#42
Still, it's not connected to SS. A couple million people or so will never get SS
Ocelot II
Jul 2025
#43
Yup. That's how it works, but Krasnov wants us all to think that he, in his munificense,
Ocelot II
Jul 2025
#52
The Social Security Fairness Act legislation passed last year did shorten the trust fund solvency
MichMan
Jul 2025
#63
It's a deduction taken at tax time, not a monthly increase in your check.
RandomNumbers
Jul 2025
#67