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55. They should have had an evacuation plan, and followed it

Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:35 AM

Jul 2025

once credible warnings were received.

That said, I feel that the state bears significant responsibility for ALLOWING them to operate as they did, apparently either oblivious to warnings that were issued, or unprepared to react.

There are many at fault here. It won't bring back the lost, but perhaps some changes could be made to save lives in the future.

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Texas State officials, the organizers of the summer camp appear to be at fault. [View all] WarGamer Jul 2025 OP

These Texas officials are pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. Next they'll be saying the young girls should Silent Type Jul 2025 #1

The local yocals look like the Texas cops sitting on their thumbs watching the school shooting WarGamer Jul 2025 #2

Like Buford T reference. Right now Gov Abbot is on signing a request for fed help and he has Kristi Noem by his side. Silent Type Jul 2025 #3

"The government was created to serve people" says Noem. applegrove Jul 2025 #4

Or that the weather report came from a woman, mcar Jul 2025 #6

+1. Forgot about that one. Silent Type Jul 2025 #8

The campers were already there - these were residential summer camps. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #44

Yes. As popular as that camp is, authorities should have made sure they were notified. Apparently, they weren't. Silent Type Jul 2025 #61

Supposedly- lots of kids camps were between sessions womanofthehills Jul 2025 #62

The thing I can't figure out, given the known volatility of area is why there were cabins that close to the river. Biophilic Jul 2025 #5

Exactly Rebl2 Jul 2025 #9

Why does anyone put any structure close to a body of water? Renew Deal Jul 2025 #19

Im sure they would have built over the pretty river , if they could. People do. Srkdqltr Jul 2025 #54

Because the greedy never learn malaise Jul 2025 #31

They should have had an evacuation plan, and followed it RandomNumbers Jul 2025 #55

Same thing happened in 1987 and 10 died in a camp bus dwayneb Jul 2025 #59

Interesting - the next girl's camp up the river had all their cabins up on high cliffs womanofthehills Jul 2025 #60

The director died in the floods Demovictory9 Jul 2025 #7

I heard that earlier..a perfect scapegoat, isn't it? Only Camp Mystic was founded in 1926 Deuxcents Jul 2025 #10

Trump and his pals always try to blame someone else. Kingofalldems Jul 2025 #12

It's one in 100, not one in 1000 - Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #46

Ten teens died in 1987 flood of river womanofthehills Jul 2025 #64

Nope. Trump is responsible. Kingofalldems Jul 2025 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jul 2025 #17

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This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jul 2025 #23

BTW I was just reading... no technology is allowed at the camp. WarGamer Jul 2025 #24

so Camp Mystic would not have heard the warnings whenever they were issued RussBLib Jul 2025 #35

that's a real problem... WarGamer Jul 2025 #38

not sure if anyone had a satellite phone RussBLib Jul 2025 #39

The Texas Legislature BigMin28 Jul 2025 #52

I'm assuming the administrators would have some means of contact... regnaD kciN Jul 2025 #42

That's sounding much more likely as the root cause pinkstarburst Jul 2025 #51

That camp has been there for 100 years..literally Melon Jul 2025 #13

For those that don't know Texas Rowdyag Jul 2025 #14

Kerrville is 100 miles away from Uvalde. TheProle Jul 2025 #15

Yeah Kerr County sheriff is a republican. Kingofalldems Jul 2025 #21

There is another christian camp close to Uvalde, but not Camp Mystic MagickMuffin Jul 2025 #34

and for both the floods and the Uvalde shootings, the local agencies are busy blaming someone else DBoon Jul 2025 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author surfered Jul 2025 #16

Did they use the emergency broadcast system to send messages to phones? Renew Deal Jul 2025 #18

My son lives about 30 miles east of that area and he told me today there were flash flood warnings on tv Deuxcents Jul 2025 #20

Camp Mystic likely did not have cell service LeftInTX Jul 2025 #43

weather radios don't rely on cell service pstokely Jul 2025 #49

All NWS flash flood warnings trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts dalton99a Jul 2025 #25

There is no cell service in that area. LeftInTX Jul 2025 #45

You would wonder if they had a weather radio pinkstarburst Jul 2025 #57

Did they even have a weather radio? pstokely Jul 2025 #48

i am sure the local authorities were doing their best Tetrachloride Jul 2025 #26

Apparently the camp is "technology-free" WarGamer Jul 2025 #27

a friend of mine attended a technology free camp last year Tetrachloride Jul 2025 #29

or a weather radio pstokely Jul 2025 #50

Hmm...at 4am and 5am in the morning, if someone wasn't up watching the news they would have missed Baitball Blogger Jul 2025 #28

No the Accuweather Warning was 1245 the NWS warning 115am WarGamer Jul 2025 #30

Well, in Florida, when we were in a flood area for Hurricane David, Baitball Blogger Jul 2025 #32

absolutely... but this was truly out in the middle of nowhere. WarGamer Jul 2025 #33

Somehow, I don't think that seclusion Baitball Blogger Jul 2025 #36

No, it's not in the middle of nowhere. Texasgal Jul 2025 #40

And no one was allowed cell phones... WarGamer Jul 2025 #41

Golly! I wonder if there was any precedent that could have foretold such flooding. Norrrm Jul 2025 #37

Don't they have overnight security? Buckeyeblue Jul 2025 #47

At 1 AM claudette Jul 2025 #53

With 700 kids in camp? Someone better be awake. travelingthrulife Jul 2025 #58

But no one claudette Jul 2025 #65

The USGS has more streamflow stations on this river and its tributaries than most places in the US. waterwatcher123 Jul 2025 #63

What an interesting thread. Kingofalldems Jul 2025 #66