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131. I've been meaning to post a Windows 8 rant thread. Thanks for this.

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:15 AM

Dec 2012

My Windows 7 computer crashed last week. Hard drive problem. Yes, Mac fans, I know I should get a Mac, but it ain't going to happen, so Windows it is.

While the computer is in the shop I've been using a new laptop with Windows 8. What a magnificently glorious piece of crap. MS took something that worked pretty well and took a hatchet to it and prayed that the pieces would fall back into place resembling an operating system.

What took one step previously now takes multiple. Before, when I had to open a program I clicked on the icon on the quick launch bar. Now I have to go to a hot corner, click on the start menu and then scroll a foot or more to the icon for the program. And then, god forbid I do other stuff while I'm working in that program. I have to hunt and peck my way from the Start screen tiles to my desktop and then hope that stuff shows up,

And have you noticed that you can't search for anything in the Windows app store" All searching has to take place in the search box, also accessible via the hot corner. And the app - at least the one I'm working with, Overdrive Media console - doesn't behave the same way the Overdrive program works in Windows 7 and previous. So, not only did Windows 8 take an os and screw it up, it took other programs along with it.

Also, 20 years after MS-DOS, does it seem odd to you that you actually have to search for the shut down button? And I'm still not sure how I managed to come across te control panel. I couldn't find it - still can't - when I needed it, but at some point it showed up unexpectedly.

This little exercise demonstrated a couple of things.

First, I will not use Windows 8 until absolutely forced to, when Windows 7 is no longer supported.

Second, I really don't like laptops - by the way, the trackpad on the new Toshiba Satellite froze after only two days of use. Guess where this machine is going once the desktop is returned.

I am now going to read the other rants. They might actually help me calm down.

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Windows 8 [View all] Aerows Dec 2012 OP

May I be the first to say "TOLD YA SO"... Panasonic Dec 2012 #1

Why in the hell did they do this? Aerows Dec 2012 #5

In theory, it should be faster to get Notepad this way than the old way Renew Deal Dec 2012 #8

I'm trying Aerows Dec 2012 #11

Think of it this way: you know people who have three dozen unsorted icons on their desktop? Occulus Dec 2012 #69

Holy Crap Aerows Dec 2012 #85

I have a lot of "stuff" installed, though, and I'm on an upgrade from 7. Occulus Dec 2012 #91

So basically file oriented work can't get done? Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #94

If you exist solely in the desktop, as opposed to the start page, there's very very little differece Occulus Dec 2012 #98

I can already search for applications in Windows 7, with its start menu search, and its only... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #103

It doesn't autocomplete, exactly Occulus Dec 2012 #106

Actually you're right, and its like that in Windows 7 as well... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #109

Actually, you do hit the windows key Occulus Dec 2012 #112

Sounds to me like, except for a few under the hood updates in optimization in Windows 8... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #115

Agreed re Windows 7 search matt819 Dec 2012 #134

I swear, that interface reminds me of a LCARS desktop replacement I tried on... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #89

Here's my "desktop" desktop Occulus Dec 2012 #93

Yeah, my quicklaunch taskbar has 2 items on it, web browser, file browser... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #95

I *try* to do that every time I install Windows Occulus Dec 2012 #100

I tried Win8, the pre-release version on a netbook... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #104

Hey, you play Guild Wars 2? Aerows Dec 2012 #128

I have Notepad pinned to the taskbar so I ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #20

I'd grab Windows 7 x64 while you can. ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #24

++++++++++++ still_one Dec 2012 #68

They seem determined to alternate decent systems with real dogs Warpy Dec 2012 #58

People Aerows Dec 2012 #60

Last I knew you needed specific hardware to begin with. Occulus Dec 2012 #71

They have several versions Aerows Dec 2012 #82

There are Hackintosh Live DVDs? Occulus Dec 2012 #84

Yes, but with pirated software Warpy Dec 2012 #99

Tablets and Windows Phone 7 jeff47 Dec 2012 #81

If I had the money, I would start stockpiling Windows 7 CD's SilveryMoon Dec 2012 #97

I really hate how troubleshooting can take, easily, many hours. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #2

But it's got beautiful plumage! baldguy Dec 2012 #3

Can't you put it on the Desktop? Downwinder Dec 2012 #4

If I want to sit there through run Aerows Dec 2012 #9

It's your desktop. You should be able to work uncluttered if you want. randome Dec 2012 #15

That is a MAJOR pet peeve for me Aerows Dec 2012 #19

The first things I do with a new computer... randome Dec 2012 #32

Me too Aerows Dec 2012 #34

Getting to the calculator and notepad each took less than three seconds just now Occulus Dec 2012 #74

There is an easier way to do that. Renew Deal Dec 2012 #6

Again Aerows Dec 2012 #10

Indexing in Win 7 and 8 is pretty good Renew Deal Dec 2012 #13

There is not a corporation in the world Aerows Dec 2012 #22

I agree Renew Deal Dec 2012 #49

Pinning everything into one, cluttered string of applications is hardly organized. randome Dec 2012 #18

No sys admin on the planet Aerows Dec 2012 #26

I do not see this gaining corporate acceptance AT ALL. randome Dec 2012 #27

Who uses "dozens" of apps Renew Deal Dec 2012 #48

Some people use dozens of apps. randome Dec 2012 #51

I do Aerows Dec 2012 #56

Only full size and half size Renew Deal Dec 2012 #76

It's built to look like a tablet interface, without the touch screen. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #7

XP was a big improvement over 98 Renew Deal Dec 2012 #14

Windows 7 is great. still_one Dec 2012 #35

I upgraded to 7 Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #45

pcmag.com JEFF9K Dec 2012 #12

It has been giving my sister FITS for weeks now.. annabanana Dec 2012 #16

I like 8 a lot. Took some getting used to but it was worth it. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #17

You enjoy Aerows Dec 2012 #30

I've changed a few things in the registry (via Windows 8 Bible) BlueJazz Dec 2012 #52

Why Should People Have to Change the Registry? dballance Dec 2012 #62

It's a fact of life Aerows Dec 2012 #80

Perhaps That's Why My Main Computer is a Mac dballance Dec 2012 #86

They don't make Mac Enterprise servers though Aerows Dec 2012 #88

Well Sure, A Server is a Completely Different Animal dballance Dec 2012 #102

I dislike it theKed Dec 2012 #143

I'm liking it okay. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #36

Not for most users who use it in business. In addition you launch programs in charms, they still_one Dec 2012 #37

You don't need the task manager to close anything. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #43

Not apps Aerows Dec 2012 #57

Exactly. still_one Dec 2012 #65

Bring up store, travel, sports video, maps, etc. show me where the x is? The only way to close still_one Dec 2012 #61

No, they can all be closed the way I just described. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #67

I should have to use an accelerator key to close a window. This is not a good os still_one Dec 2012 #70

I have no idea. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #77

Ok still_one Dec 2012 #79

Certain processes linger though Aerows Dec 2012 #73

Seems like a lot of previously unneeded work arcane1 Dec 2012 #63

It is made for a mobile device. still_one Dec 2012 #66

Do you not see the absurdity of this? TroglodyteScholar Dec 2012 #64

Whatever. I rarely use most of those anyway. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #75

Mouse Gestures?!?! Didn't those go the way of the Dodo in 2004? I remember... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #96

Android is starting to use them. Occulus Dec 2012 #101

There's a difference between touch screens and mouse and keyboard... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #105

Oh yes, gestures with a mouse don't work if they're complex Occulus Dec 2012 #107

I've been working with Windows Ate for a month now (new computer) RoverSuswade Dec 2012 #21

If I had a start button, I'd probably be less annoyed Aerows Dec 2012 #23

They have apps such as win8 start button which are free and you can get from cnet.com, but that still_one Dec 2012 #33

I'm a programmer and I know... randome Dec 2012 #38

Same here. I will not install it on my wife's machine, I would be destroyed still_one Dec 2012 #39

How long before it becomes Windows Hate? I wonder. Kip Humphrey Dec 2012 #25

I think I'm there Aerows Dec 2012 #28

Yea, I forgot the "H" RoverSuswade Dec 2012 #29

Microsoft screwed up big time. Windows 8 doesn't know if it is a mobile device or computer, and it still_one Dec 2012 #31

Press the Windows+Z Keys. Click All Apps. Click Notepad. Xithras Dec 2012 #40

'Click Notepad'. randome Dec 2012 #41

Sort of Xithras Dec 2012 #44

I use 'Program Files' and 'All Programs' as little as possible. randome Dec 2012 #47

8 does have a way to do custom groups Xithras Dec 2012 #54

Oh, that's cool Aerows Dec 2012 #42

Yeah, it really does work better if you have a touch screen. Xithras Dec 2012 #46

I got rid of a bunch of garbage from Start Aerows Dec 2012 #55

Never ever use "all apps" Occulus Dec 2012 #83

Yeah. It's based on the iOS and Android model. Xithras Dec 2012 #141

A question about what you wrote Jim Lane Dec 2012 #118

You must use Notepad a lot Xithras Dec 2012 #140

Thanks for the clarification, but what you say of 8 is also true of 7. Jim Lane Dec 2012 #146

My company just switched our desktops customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #50

You don't understand. randome Dec 2012 #53

Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC CountAllVotes Dec 2012 #72

I don't think the 64 bit version is meant to be used for most tasks Renew Deal Dec 2012 #78

I've been using it since launch and have had no problems with it. Initech Dec 2012 #59

Been running Win8 Enterprise on a live usb for a few months now CabalPowered Dec 2012 #87

On a liveusb? Aerows Dec 2012 #133

Launchy is a nice program to quickly launch programs Bongo Prophet Dec 2012 #90

I couldn't even stand Ubuntu with its "Unity" interface, but at least it gave me an option... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #92

Believe it or not, Unity is worse. Occulus Dec 2012 #108

That's why I chucked it and got Lubuntu... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #110

Valve intends to get their entire library available in linux eventually Occulus Dec 2012 #114

Lubuntu is about as easy to set up as regular Ubuntu... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #116

See, gaming is a major reason Aerows Dec 2012 #126

If you preferred the old Gnome 2, Heywood J Dec 2012 #119

Cinnamon vs. KDE Plasma d_r Dec 2012 #139

Just got a new desktop... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #111

Sorry for your pain, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #113

They should have stopped with Windows 7. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #117

OH! Aerows Dec 2012 #132

Windows 8 is a mess, under the hood a lot of fixes... johnnyrocket Dec 2012 #120

I recomend "Classic Shell" to get your start menu back. johnnyrocket Dec 2012 #121

I feel your pain pscot Dec 2012 #122

You might enjoy this: Liberal In Texas Dec 2012 #123

That summed up my frustrations perfectly Aerows Dec 2012 #124

this critique is right on still_one Dec 2012 #135

Take two MACS and call me in the morning Berlum Dec 2012 #125

LOL! Aerows Dec 2012 #130

Windows 8 sucks liberal N proud Dec 2012 #127

It won't. still_one Dec 2012 #136

Win7 64 is the finest OS I've ever used. Just top notch. Romulox Dec 2012 #129

I've been meaning to post a Windows 8 rant thread. Thanks for this. matt819 Dec 2012 #131

my Aunt bought a new computer with it on it d_r Dec 2012 #137

'A facebook machine'. An elegant phrase. randome Dec 2012 #138

My advice to all laptop users of any OS: get a USB mouse. Occulus Dec 2012 #142

I agree wholeheartedly. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #144

you know I got to where I don't mind them on a laptop d_r Dec 2012 #145

I'm with you. I'm used to the trackpad and have no problems. Jim Lane Dec 2012 #148

Sorry, Microsoft: Users really want the Start menu back Renew Deal Dec 2012 #147