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no_hypocrisy

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Mon Jul 7, 2025, 05:31 AM Jul 2025

I think I know where TSF got the term, Shylock. [View all]

Not because of he read Merchant of Venice. Not because of a college course. Not even a passing reference in his collection of Hitler's Speeches.

It came from Roy Cohn, his mentor.

All sorts of garbage flew out of Cohn's mouth. And it was universal. Yeah, Cohn was Jewish but hated being Jewish the way he hated gays but he was gay. Roy Cohn was a classic misanthrope. He hated everybody.

Cohn likely used "Shylock" and "bankers" several times in TSF's presence, but TSF didn't understand its reference and meaning. He just saw that it shook up people and remembered it and vowed he'd use it too.

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He knows it is derogatory to Jews..not the Shakespeare part...just the racist part JT45242 Jul 2025 #1
My point exactly. no_hypocrisy Jul 2025 #3
My pint was he learned young...long before Roy Cohn was of any importance JT45242 Jul 2025 #6
You could be correct with Fred Sr.'s influence. no_hypocrisy Jul 2025 #7
That's a good possibility. Haggard Celine Jul 2025 #2
Actually, they selected each other. no_hypocrisy Jul 2025 #4
Shylock BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2025 #5
It's a very common slur against Jewish lenders. yardwork Jul 2025 #19
It was BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2025 #22
I did not hear the Jewish part growing up. I just heard it in reference to a loan shark, shady lender or bank...nt mitch96 Jul 2025 #23
Yes.. Cohn was a horrible man, but well-educated and well-read. Trump soaked up nearly every hlthe2b Jul 2025 #8
Maybe we need to knock it off .. . . AverageOldGuy Jul 2025 #9
I'm not holding my breath... PJMcK Jul 2025 #20
"Shylock" used to be a pretty common term, it was used often on tv and in movies. sop Jul 2025 #10
Yes. I recall hearing it in police/crime TV series back in the 1980s and 1990s. John1956PA Jul 2025 #11
That's where my brain first went, as wel. GoCubsGo Jul 2025 #16
Thank you for your reply. I may have heard it from one of the detectives on "Hill Street Blues" back in the early 1980s. John1956PA Jul 2025 #18
Very good observation. Peace. twodogsbarking Jul 2025 #12
Pure KKK vocab from their literature... JCMach1 Jul 2025 #13
It's a common underworld term. Littlered Jul 2025 #14
And you know this how? Gimpyknee Jul 2025 #15
Not as widely talked about, the Trumps were also tight with Norman Vincent Peale... Hugin Jul 2025 #17
Sounds like Stephen Miller Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #21
K&R - and MILLER is COHN resuscitated UTUSN Jul 2025 #24
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