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13. The first English grammar, Pamphlet for Grammar by William Bullokar,

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:10 PM

Dec 2012

written with the seeming goal of demonstrating that English was quite as rule-bound as Latin, was published in 1586.

If the Founding fathers had no problem saying what they mean, and they meant for people to universally have the right to own and carry weapons for whatever purpose, they would have said just that, rather than couching it in a phrase prefaced with a discussion of the militia.

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Gun Control Now - Fact Driven Rant [View all] yellerpup Dec 2012 OP

Where are the facts? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #1

I have a hard time wrapping my head around yellerpup Dec 2012 #3

I'd actually EXPECT tham to do precisely that. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #8

Why sure, after losing so many lives in the Revolution yellerpup Dec 2012 #31

The idea, I believe, was to have a well armed and responsive populace letemrot Dec 2012 #34

You seriously thing they wouldn't have protected the very method they'd just used? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #40

Here you go.. letemrot Dec 2012 #17

Everyone have the same talking points to share? yellerpup Dec 2012 #20

I don't trust them.. letemrot Dec 2012 #23

I called it a talking point because yellerpup Dec 2012 #25

Oh you have.. letemrot Dec 2012 #26

Are there any regulations you feel would be acceptable yellerpup Dec 2012 #29

I am sorry.. Your post wasn't about the founding fathers? letemrot Dec 2012 #32

Then alert on me if you feel I done you wrong. yellerpup Dec 2012 #35

and I didn't respond to the op. letemrot Dec 2012 #39

I didn't ask a question in that post either. yellerpup Dec 2012 #42

Oh ok..,. letemrot Dec 2012 #43

The founders had just finished sarisataka Dec 2012 #24

Background to the "well regulated militia" .... Toronto Dec 2012 #5

FP 29 was a treatise on how best to maintain the militia.. so? X_Digger Dec 2012 #6

I believe you have to take it within the context of the language of the amendment Toronto Dec 2012 #7

I can't see 'ensures' as a valid substitution.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #9

You ignore the fact that the right to bear arms Toronto Dec 2012 #10

Commas and semi-colons when there *were* no rules of grammar at the time? X_Digger Dec 2012 #11

The first English grammar, Pamphlet for Grammar by William Bullokar, Toronto Dec 2012 #13

Not a fan of 17th and 18th century literature, I take it? X_Digger Dec 2012 #15

In defense of himself (self, family, home) and the State. yellerpup Dec 2012 #18

All are valid exercises of the right, yes. (protection of self, family, home, state) X_Digger Dec 2012 #19

Nope. n/t yellerpup Dec 2012 #21

Sigh.... Toronto Dec 2012 #28

Thanks for your contributions to this thread. yellerpup Dec 2012 #30

My pleasure - I also appreciate sanity... Toronto Dec 2012 #33

Yes, I think the time is now. yellerpup Dec 2012 #37

I am not afraid to go to the mall, or send my kids to school letemrot Dec 2012 #44

I salute your bravery. yellerpup Dec 2012 #45

Well then just live.. letemrot Dec 2012 #46

The kids at Sandy Hook went to school on December 14th yellerpup Dec 2012 #47

I am glad you are not afraid... letemrot Dec 2012 #49

Then you missed my point yellerpup Dec 2012 #50

Yes BobbyBoring Dec 2012 #51

Time for change. yellerpup Dec 2012 #52

Ignoring of course that the Congress had NO power to re-create a new militia. jmg257 Dec 2012 #22

Doesn't the existence of the National Guard Toronto Dec 2012 #2

I believe we are covered yellerpup Dec 2012 #4

No. letemrot Dec 2012 #27

Yes. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #38

Actually it does not.. letemrot Dec 2012 #41

The State Military Reserves have developed Toronto Dec 2012 #48

You forgot the FACT that the Militia Laws passed by Congress in support jmg257 Dec 2012 #12

Yes, and the State Militias eventually evolved into the National Guard Toronto Dec 2012 #14

Luckily - otherwise the Militia declaration would have more merrit, and jmg257 Dec 2012 #16

K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #36