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John1956PA

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14. The hydraulic boom which supported the flag suddenly dropped as hydraulic fluid sprayed the crowd.

Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:02 AM

Jul 2025

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The timing of the spray from the hydraulic lift coincides with Trump reaching for his ear. A few days after the event, an engineer posted a video (I wish that I could locate it now) expressing his opinion that the first bullet projectile grazed Trump's right ear and then proceeded to strike some component of the hydraulic lift which caused it to spray the crowd with hydraulic fluid, resulting in the descent of its boom.

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New angle from Butler, PA - Appears to show staging of Trump's "Fight, fight, fight" photo. [View all] Snarkoleptic Jul 2025 OP

Feasible but need more evidence no_hypocrisy Jul 2025 #1

Poppycock NoRethugFriends Jul 2025 #2

So, we have a feeble demented 78 year old man Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #3

USA Today has a detailed timeline showing he was on the ground no more than 1:25. Snarkoleptic Jul 2025 #9

Kid shooter was also a maga. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #10

So the SS was in on the hoax? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #11

SS ineptitude is a possbility and people died for this stunt. Snarkoleptic Jul 2025 #15

So, you believe the shooting was staged, and arranged in advance by the campaign? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #16

I think it may have been staged. Snarkoleptic Jul 2025 #23

A "joke" that killed two people and wounded a few others? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #24

Have you ever been a Federal LEO and organized, participated in, and/or... Wuddles440 Jul 2025 #52

So the flaws in the narrative suggest it was staged? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #68

See post 40. Do you actually believe anything coming from the trump admin? brush Jul 2025 #42

There should either be a scar or a chunk of ear missing. lapfog_1 Jul 2025 #4

He was probably asked to shoot above the crowd but he screwed up the shot. travelingthrulife Jul 2025 #6

I guess that's possible. yardwork Jul 2025 #12

Not to mention, only a very very tiny change in angle could have seriously killed Trump karynnj Jul 2025 #76

Agreed. yardwork Jul 2025 #78

Ronny Jackson publicly stated Trump had a 2cm gunshot wound, which is untrue. Snarkoleptic Jul 2025 #7

That is obviously a lie but nothing new from that quack. yardwork Jul 2025 #13

Known drinker doctor may have been seeing double. Attilatheblond Jul 2025 #26

Pretty obvious IMO the SS and the kid shooter were in on it, but the kid shooter... brush Jul 2025 #40

The kid was probably told he would never be convicted or see prison biophile Jul 2025 #58

Absolutely. Agreed. The magats will stop at nothing. As you say, the kid never had a chance as he would be dead. brush Jul 2025 #60

How much investigating was done afterward? bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #5

I just posted about this inside another thread. Here are the odd happenings the new video shows: Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #8

So the Trump team knew in advance that he would be shot? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #17

The SS let the shooter, a 22 year old hapless maga, Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #20

SS was in on it too. brush Jul 2025 #43

The hydraulic boom which supported the flag suddenly dropped as hydraulic fluid sprayed the crowd. John1956PA Jul 2025 #14

You're just providing inconvenient facts to spoil a perfectly good conspiracy theory. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #18

Thank you. The least that should be able to do in follow up . . . John1956PA Jul 2025 #21

See post 22. You may like it, but it's not fact. It never happened. It's just a conspiracy theory. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #25

So, you believe the shooting was staged? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #28

Yes. Not the whole team, but a few who needed to know. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #29

Thanks Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #30

But you believed the boom was shot when the owner has confirmed that it wasn't. So there's that. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #31

I believe the boom wasn't deliberately lowered to put the flag in the perfect photo op. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #33

And you believed the boom was shot when the owner Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #34

My Reply No. 57 contains the following image taken from a video showing the spray of hydraulic fluid. John1956PA Jul 2025 #59

Except the boom owner says his equipment was not damaged. See post 22. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #62

The damage might have been to some other a component of the pressurized hydraulic schematic. John1956PA Jul 2025 #69

Read the article linked at post 22. The guy owned the booms and the cranes. He has confirmed his equipment Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #71

I am talking about the green tractor. John1956PA Jul 2025 #73

OK, but the guy who owned the cranes and booms for the flags said his equipment wasn't damaged. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #75

No. 1: The guy is a MAGA who said he would loan the equipment all over again. I do not trust what MAGAs say. John1956PA Jul 2025 #77

LOL! Yes, no doubt the green tractor was powering something. Just not the flags. BECAUSE the owner Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #79

I am curious, what is the difference between a boom and a crane? I do not know, and I would like to learn. John1956PA Jul 2025 #80

Do you believe Trump knew? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #32

Yes. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #37

So, Susie Wiles and Chris Civitta (sp?) knew for sure? Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #35

I don't know who knew. I know that a 22 year old maga nursing home orderly outmaneuvered the Secret Service Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #36

You're making good points. The only thing I don't agree on is that the shooter our maneuvered the SS. brush Jul 2025 #45

I agree with you, and I think the fact the kid was maga supports you. But the person I was responding to is Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #46

We're on the same page. brush Jul 2025 #48

This !! It doesn't take a village to stage this just a few insiders uponit7771 Jul 2025 #66

I agree with this. hamsterjill Jul 2025 #74

I hadn't heard that, so searched for info and found a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article. Snarkoleptic Jul 2025 #22

Here is a video posted on X. John1956PA Jul 2025 #27

perfect timing for the photo WhiteTara Jul 2025 #47

Color me surprised. Not at all. BoRaGard Jul 2025 #19

Crazy conspiracy theory that somehow survives here. Melon Jul 2025 #38

Ben Franklin: "Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead"" ms liberty Jul 2025 #39

First rule of assassination... Kill the assassin. Norrrm Jul 2025 #41

Book recently published about this CozyMystery Jul 2025 #44

so was killing the veteran part of the plan too or just an accident eShirl Jul 2025 #49

I sure hope this Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #50

See post 22. The vehicle that was shot wasn't the crane holding the flag. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #51

As I have suggested in other posts on this thread, the green tractor might have taken the hit by the projectile. John1956PA Jul 2025 #63

I have always been puzzled as to why the flag was lowered over the scene. Maybe someone riversedge Jul 2025 #53

My Reply No. 20 contains a link to an X video showing a spray of hydraulic fluid . . . John1956PA Jul 2025 #57

Reddit never fails to entertain. egduj Jul 2025 #54

Simple... EarthAbides Jul 2025 #55

Like moths to a flame JoseBalow Jul 2025 #56

Hard pass on this tinfoilhatism CT bollocks. It's a bad look for DU to see this BlueAnon crackpottery flung out here. Celerity Jul 2025 #61

DUers don't trust Trump enough to give him any benefit of the doubt on anything uponit7771 Jul 2025 #67

It's not giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, it's taking a clip and immediately using a frame of wild CT Celerity Jul 2025 #70

It's embarrassing. demmiblue Jul 2025 #82

I'm leaning stages at this point, TF was that shit ?!! uponit7771 Jul 2025 #64

I'm wore ForgedCrank Jul 2025 #65

So they knowingly sacrificed a MAGA voter and the shooter was such a good shot the bullet just doc03 Jul 2025 #72

I doubt anything hit his ear MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #81