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Cuthbert Allgood

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15. You may want to reread Lolita, because you didn't get it on the first go around.

Reply to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Jul 21, 2025, 01:24 PM

Jul 2025

Lolita is victim of rape. And kidnapping. Humbert is a rapist. Lolita did not "seduce" him. That Nabokov made you feel anything positive for Humbert was on purpose to drive home his point that "regular" people are rapists and they aren't just white-van-driving psychopaths.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] milestogo Jul 2025 OP

The character Lolita, age 13, was repeatedly raped by the narrator of the book. hedda_foil Jul 2025 #1

But Humbert doesn't see it that way. milestogo Jul 2025 #2

The reader however, does see it as such Torchlight Jul 2025 #3

I read the book a long time ago milestogo Jul 2025 #5

I've never read the forward either. But is was pretty clear Humbert is to be seen as a horrible person. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #7

The forward merely validated an already existent theme Torchlight Jul 2025 #9

Humbert Humbert is what's called an "unreliable narrator." Reader knows he's a full of shit pedophile. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #4

Because Jilly_in_VA Jul 2025 #6

Background usonian Jul 2025 #8

Agree Starbeach Jul 2025 #10

Horrible Humbert Express would be a better name. milestogo Jul 2025 #12

k and r BoRaGard Jul 2025 #11

The term is despicable, implying legitimacy. The old pedophile lie/excuse of "she initiated it". AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2025 #13

It implies exploitation and abuse. Torchlight Jul 2025 #14

The movie version portrayed Lolita as a seductive underaged "slut" w/the older man at her mercy. He just AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2025 #18

Your inference is not a common one. Torchlight Jul 2025 #23

My "inference" of Lolita is a common one as evidenced by the term "Lolita Express" - a fucking slam on the young victims AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2025 #26

No one would want to admit they find degeneracy "cutesy" Torchlight Jul 2025 #28

"We" would be interested in your objective findings as well. It sounds like your sampling was limited AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2025 #31

I need to add that the movie character of Lolita thought the older man was a creep & he thought he was God's gift. AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2025 #25

There are 2 movie versions of Lolita milestogo Jul 2025 #30

Oh - interesting. I watched the 1962 version once & cannot watch it again - too dark for me as a victim myself. AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2025 #32

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #35

There are actually two pedophiles in the story: Humbert and Quilty milestogo Jul 2025 #36

You may want to reread Lolita, because you didn't get it on the first go around. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2025 #15

You may want to reread my OP, because you didn't get it on the first go around. milestogo Jul 2025 #16

Lolita is the term that is used because it's the title. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2025 #17

Stupid and gross. milestogo Jul 2025 #19

Never said stupid; I said they don't get it. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2025 #38

Imply is to Infer as Pitch is to Catch Torchlight Jul 2025 #21

Nabokov was a modernist Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2025 #27

Crap. I originally responded to your post thinking it was one above it. Torchlight Jul 2025 #29

It's all good Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2025 #33

Indeed. writerJT Jul 2025 #37

Jeez, did you read the book? Warpy Jul 2025 #20

Ah, so its a novel about self-stimulation. milestogo Jul 2025 #24

Uh, no Warpy Jul 2025 #39

Good. You should. Iggo Jul 2025 #22

I agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #34