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ancianita

(43,294 posts)
48. Fair enough. And
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 01:12 PM
Jul 2025

re your point on Democratic leadership... D

emocratic leadership, historically, is two or three decades behind the times the NAZIGOPMAGA play in.
... your first impulse is to express an opinion NOT based on fact, and in that you're not alone. When you talk "historically," remember to do your homework, as well.

Historically...
We are the party that with every Democratic president brings down the national debt and even creates budget surpluses. (See Pres Clinton and Newsom's CA, budget the 4th biggest economy on the planet.)

We are the party that submitted the very first climate bill in the Senate,, the first ban on assault weapons, and the Violence Against Women Act, (all Biden),

We are the party that opposed Clarence Thomas's confirmation (he won on rethug party #'s)

We are the party of FDR and Joe Biden.

For all those decades, the so-called NAZIGOPMAGA did not exist, but their STEALTH, BEHIND THE SCENES Koch oligarch network did. Their corporate media did. Maga GOP emerged when oligarchs knew they had to buy the SCOTUS, Republican Party and the Executive Branch; then use them demolish the New Deal and bring down the Biden economy, climate policy (oiligarchs) high level accomplishments (institutional expertise and memory), and foreign policy (NATO vs the Axis of Evil). And so the Heritage Project 2025.

Former President Jimmy Carter in 2015 characterized the United States as an "oligarchy with unlimited political bribery" following the 2010 Citizens United v. FEC Supreme Court decision, which removed limits on donations to political campaigns.[61]

In 2014, a study by political scientists Martin Gilens of Princeton University and Benjamin Page of Northwestern University argued that the United States' political system does not primarily reflect the preferences of its average citizens. Their analysis of policy outcomes between 1981 and 2002 suggested that wealthy individuals and business groups held substantial influence over political decisions, often sidelining the majority of Americans.[62] While the United States maintains democratic features such as regular elections, freedom of speech, and widespread suffrage, the study noted that policy decisions are disproportionately influenced by economic elites.[63] However, the study received criticism from other scholars, who argued that the influence of average citizens should not be discounted and that the conclusions about oligarchic tendencies were overstated.[64] Gilens and Page defended their research, reiterating that while they do not label the United States an outright oligarchy, they found substantial evidence of economic elites dominating certain areas of policy-making.[65]

In his presidential farewell address on January 15, 2025, outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden warned that an oligarchy was taking shape in America which threatened democracy, basic rights, and freedom, aided by a tech–industrial complex.[66][67] Businessman Elon Musk, a close collaborator of Donald Trump during his 2024 campaign and head of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has been described as an oligarch due to his extensive influence on Trump during the first few months of his second presidency.[68][69][70][71][72][73] Musk contributed over $200 million into the 2024 election, creating a "super" PAC to promote Trump's campaign.


2026 IS COMING. Put your history and fact armor on. No more baseless doubttalk.

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Healthcare that we the taxpayers are paying for. Alice B. Jul 2025 #1
Well, he peered wearily over his half-glasses at the press corp Orrex Jul 2025 #2
Erasing the word "Republicans" would make your headline more accurate . . . . hatrack Jul 2025 #3
For years, I've been calling for Schumer to step down from leadership. Intractable Jul 2025 #4
It just turns my stomach what we did to Franken gab13by13 Jul 2025 #6
I believe Schumer is more responsible for the sabotage of Franken than even Gillibrand. Intractable Jul 2025 #8
When you say "We are following Chuck Schumer's plan", who exactly is "we"? lapucelle Jul 2025 #5
Woe are we. Woulda coulda shoulda. 🙄🤡😜🦢 Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #7
Senate Democrats passed the CR back in March gab13by13 Jul 2025 #10
With the exception of Senator Jeanne Shaheen, every Democratic senator voted against the CR, lapucelle Jul 2025 #14
Of course it's not accurate. The objective is never to be accurate * Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #19
Folks who can't make the distinction between a procedural vote and a legislative vote lapucelle Jul 2025 #20
I stand by what I posted gab13by13 Jul 2025 #27
That story makes it clear that Democrats didn't vote for the CR, so no, Democrats did not pass the CR. lapucelle Jul 2025 #36
I do not understand your post, sorry, I am slow. gab13by13 Jul 2025 #43
There is no cloture rule in the House of Representatives. lapucelle Jul 2025 #47
I think you're missing the fact that there is no cloture rule in the House of Representatives, lapucelle Jul 2025 #49
Something I want you to know, gab13by13 Jul 2025 #31
I stand by what I posted gab13by13 Jul 2025 #30
Did you go to any of the People's Town Halls organized by the DNC and held in red congressional districts ? lapucelle Jul 2025 #16
The hairsplitters and nitpickers of today would not have been happy with that either. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #17
I will never call you names, no matter the insults. gab13by13 Jul 2025 #34
Well said. Gimpyknee Jul 2025 #25
When Republicans rape, loot and pillage while Democrats watch in helpless silence dalton99a Jul 2025 #9
It's always too little, too late with you Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #11
I'm going to be 78 this week gab13by13 Jul 2025 #13
I think it was more like 111,189 times Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #15
Unimaginable Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #12
Post #32 ancianita Jul 2025 #35
Don't blame me. I suggested we refuse to seat the traitors in 2021. Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #38
Did you read my post? It's not blaming you at all. It's pointing out how the OP is fact free and evidence-free wrong. ancianita Jul 2025 #42
Sorry, did not mean to sideshow. Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #46
Fair enough. And ancianita Jul 2025 #48
I do appreciate history. That's why I am a Democrat. Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #50
Awesome historical context! On this point we now agree: "Of course, we didn't know any of that until decades later...." ancianita Jul 2025 #52
I mean the Republican party is dead and the Magat party is evil, we all know that, gab13by13 Jul 2025 #18
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #22
Our elected Democratic representatives need to really step up to the plate. Only a few have been. Clouds Passing Jul 2025 #21
Patience, grasshppper. This isn't a Law & Order episode. Garland's got this. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #23
... ancianita Jul 2025 #37
To read your post is to wonder how Schumer ever got to be Majority Leader of the Senate. MineralMan Jul 2025 #24
Post #32 ancianita Jul 2025 #33
Thank you! MineralMan Jul 2025 #41
Happy to help! ancianita Jul 2025 #44
Schumer's strategy... Trust_Reality Jul 2025 #51
The politicians get top notch free health care at taxpayer expense. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #26
Waiting to see if the billionaires nod their heads Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #28
We have failed to run against tax cuts for decades now IbogaProject Jul 2025 #29
YOU ARE WRONG. Your OP misinforms DU. "Democrats had over 3 1/2 months to do those town halls, ancianita Jul 2025 #32
Very Nicely Done! MineralMan Jul 2025 #40
I understand that town halls happened, many were organized by numerous Democratic organizations. gab13by13 Jul 2025 #45
You're assuming that these are normal times lapucelle Jul 2025 #53
When push comes to shove... Xoan Jul 2025 #39
Yes. I observed the failed tactics of Schumer and Jeffries, from the beginning. yellow dahlia Jul 2025 #54
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