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In reply to the discussion: We Are Following Chuck Schumer's Plan To Defeat Republicans [View all]ancianita
(43,294 posts)48. Fair enough. And
re your point on Democratic leadership... D
emocratic leadership, historically, is two or three decades behind the times the NAZIGOPMAGA play in.
... your first impulse is to express an opinion NOT based on fact, and in that you're not alone. When you talk "historically," remember to do your homework, as well.
Historically...
We are the party that with every Democratic president brings down the national debt and even creates budget surpluses. (See Pres Clinton and Newsom's CA, budget the 4th biggest economy on the planet.)
We are the party that submitted the very first climate bill in the Senate,, the first ban on assault weapons, and the Violence Against Women Act, (all Biden),
We are the party that opposed Clarence Thomas's confirmation (he won on rethug party #'s)
We are the party of FDR and Joe Biden.
For all those decades, the so-called NAZIGOPMAGA did not exist, but their STEALTH, BEHIND THE SCENES Koch oligarch network did. Their corporate media did. Maga GOP emerged when oligarchs knew they had to buy the SCOTUS, Republican Party and the Executive Branch; then use them demolish the New Deal and bring down the Biden economy, climate policy (oiligarchs) high level accomplishments (institutional expertise and memory), and foreign policy (NATO vs the Axis of Evil). And so the Heritage Project 2025.
Former President Jimmy Carter in 2015 characterized the United States as an "oligarchy with unlimited political bribery" following the 2010 Citizens United v. FEC Supreme Court decision, which removed limits on donations to political campaigns.[61]
In 2014, a study by political scientists Martin Gilens of Princeton University and Benjamin Page of Northwestern University argued that the United States' political system does not primarily reflect the preferences of its average citizens. Their analysis of policy outcomes between 1981 and 2002 suggested that wealthy individuals and business groups held substantial influence over political decisions, often sidelining the majority of Americans.[62] While the United States maintains democratic features such as regular elections, freedom of speech, and widespread suffrage, the study noted that policy decisions are disproportionately influenced by economic elites.[63] However, the study received criticism from other scholars, who argued that the influence of average citizens should not be discounted and that the conclusions about oligarchic tendencies were overstated.[64] Gilens and Page defended their research, reiterating that while they do not label the United States an outright oligarchy, they found substantial evidence of economic elites dominating certain areas of policy-making.[65]
In his presidential farewell address on January 15, 2025, outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden warned that an oligarchy was taking shape in America which threatened democracy, basic rights, and freedom, aided by a techindustrial complex.[66][67] Businessman Elon Musk, a close collaborator of Donald Trump during his 2024 campaign and head of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has been described as an oligarch due to his extensive influence on Trump during the first few months of his second presidency.[68][69][70][71][72][73] Musk contributed over $200 million into the 2024 election, creating a "super" PAC to promote Trump's campaign.
In 2014, a study by political scientists Martin Gilens of Princeton University and Benjamin Page of Northwestern University argued that the United States' political system does not primarily reflect the preferences of its average citizens. Their analysis of policy outcomes between 1981 and 2002 suggested that wealthy individuals and business groups held substantial influence over political decisions, often sidelining the majority of Americans.[62] While the United States maintains democratic features such as regular elections, freedom of speech, and widespread suffrage, the study noted that policy decisions are disproportionately influenced by economic elites.[63] However, the study received criticism from other scholars, who argued that the influence of average citizens should not be discounted and that the conclusions about oligarchic tendencies were overstated.[64] Gilens and Page defended their research, reiterating that while they do not label the United States an outright oligarchy, they found substantial evidence of economic elites dominating certain areas of policy-making.[65]
In his presidential farewell address on January 15, 2025, outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden warned that an oligarchy was taking shape in America which threatened democracy, basic rights, and freedom, aided by a techindustrial complex.[66][67] Businessman Elon Musk, a close collaborator of Donald Trump during his 2024 campaign and head of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has been described as an oligarch due to his extensive influence on Trump during the first few months of his second presidency.[68][69][70][71][72][73] Musk contributed over $200 million into the 2024 election, creating a "super" PAC to promote Trump's campaign.
2026 IS COMING. Put your history and fact armor on. No more baseless doubttalk.
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I believe Schumer is more responsible for the sabotage of Franken than even Gillibrand.
Intractable
Jul 2025
#8
With the exception of Senator Jeanne Shaheen, every Democratic senator voted against the CR,
lapucelle
Jul 2025
#14
Folks who can't make the distinction between a procedural vote and a legislative vote
lapucelle
Jul 2025
#20
That story makes it clear that Democrats didn't vote for the CR, so no, Democrats did not pass the CR.
lapucelle
Jul 2025
#36
I think you're missing the fact that there is no cloture rule in the House of Representatives,
lapucelle
Jul 2025
#49
Did you go to any of the People's Town Halls organized by the DNC and held in red congressional districts ?
lapucelle
Jul 2025
#16
The hairsplitters and nitpickers of today would not have been happy with that either.
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#17
When Republicans rape, loot and pillage while Democrats watch in helpless silence
dalton99a
Jul 2025
#9
Did you read my post? It's not blaming you at all. It's pointing out how the OP is fact free and evidence-free wrong.
ancianita
Jul 2025
#42
Awesome historical context! On this point we now agree: "Of course, we didn't know any of that until decades later...."
ancianita
Jul 2025
#52
I mean the Republican party is dead and the Magat party is evil, we all know that,
gab13by13
Jul 2025
#18
Our elected Democratic representatives need to really step up to the plate. Only a few have been.
Clouds Passing
Jul 2025
#21
Patience, grasshppper. This isn't a Law & Order episode. Garland's got this.
Scrivener7
Jul 2025
#23
To read your post is to wonder how Schumer ever got to be Majority Leader of the Senate.
MineralMan
Jul 2025
#24
YOU ARE WRONG. Your OP misinforms DU. "Democrats had over 3 1/2 months to do those town halls,
ancianita
Jul 2025
#32
I understand that town halls happened, many were organized by numerous Democratic organizations.
gab13by13
Jul 2025
#45
Yes. I observed the failed tactics of Schumer and Jeffries, from the beginning.
yellow dahlia
Jul 2025
#54