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MineralMan

(151,222 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:26 PM Dec 2012

Armed Guards? I picked up my nephew at his high school today, [View all]

to give him a ride home. I do that every day, since his working mom left his moron father. The Newtown shootings had me watching the school closely as it let out and I waited for my nephew. He got in the car, and we left the campus, very slowly, since lots of people were picking up their kids and the kids were leaving the parking lot. As we left, going out a back road, I saw a local police car parked in a space with two cops sitting in it. So, I asked my nephew if that was new.

He said that there were four cops every day at the school, all day. I asked if they were armed, and he said they were. I asked what they did at the school. He said that they mostly harass the students about stuff. Which students? The black kids, he said. They were always stopping them in the halls and questioning them about drugs and stuff. So I asked if there were a lot of problems at his school, fights, drugs, etc. He said not really.

What struck me most was that the two cops were just sitting in their patrol car on a side road, away from the mass of kids getting out of school. Had anything happened, they'd have taken a long time to get to the scene on foot. They couldn't drive, because the area is gridlocked for about 15-20 minutes after school lets out.

It's a large high school in a suburb of St. Paul, MN. I'd guess, from looking at the kids streaming out of the school, that there are a couple of thousand students attending.

Armed guards at this school would be completely helpless if someone decided to shoot up the school as it was letting out for the day. If you can imagine a couple thousand teenagers streaming out of the building into the parking lots, and all the cars jamming the campus roads, you can see that there's no way four cops could do much, especially if they're sitting in a squad car blocked by the traffic. Dozens and dozens of cars come to pick up kids, and nobody pays any attention to cars arriving and leaving. About 20 buses also contribute to the daily traffic jam.

Armed guards aren't the solution. Eliminating the firearms that can wreak mass havoc is the solution. Armed guards couldn't do anything to stop a massacre at that school if it happened when school was letting out.

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MM, you are simply confusing reality with their bs rhetoric. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #1
Just type in :sarcasm: in the body of the message. freshwest Dec 2012 #13
No smiley needed. MineralMan Dec 2012 #14
As usual, you are the voice of reason. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #2
You're too kind. I'm just reporting what I observed, MineralMan Dec 2012 #3
Reporting it here is the wrong place. Report it to school officials or board. kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #9
Report what? That cops were in their patrol car? MineralMan Dec 2012 #10
This was a high school...haven't y ou heard of resource officers? rustydog Dec 2012 #26
We have lots of adults that do that here. Especially postal workers. In the snow. freshwest Dec 2012 #19
And there's nothing like having seen the police in action... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #25
I've posted this before, but... Bigmack Dec 2012 #4
Thanks. Fortunately, most people have no harmful MineralMan Dec 2012 #6
Good Story Bro. bahrbearian Dec 2012 #5
Yes, I thought it was worth telling. MineralMan Dec 2012 #8
Of Course ! bahrbearian Dec 2012 #11
Have a nice evening, won't you? MineralMan Dec 2012 #12
Oh My God....Logic and Reason! Raster Dec 2012 #7
i read they actually had two guards on duty that day..... spanone Dec 2012 #15
Two guards can't do much MineralMan Dec 2012 #18
If armed guards and self defense with guns don't work why do police need guns? dkf Dec 2012 #16
Police are not in the mass shooting prevention business. MineralMan Dec 2012 #21
So you do acknowledge a gun can be of use in dealing with individuals in isolated situations? dkf Dec 2012 #23
You don't even have to get rid of the arms. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #17
I'm not sure about the specifics of what's needed. MineralMan Dec 2012 #20
The NFA of 1934 required heavy licensing requirements to own automatic weapons RomneyLies Dec 2012 #24
If they put armed guards in all schools jimlup Dec 2012 #22
Took my 8yo granddaughter to school OkieGranny Dec 2012 #27
Just a thought... 2naSalit Dec 2012 #32
Armed guards obviously can't be everywhere. moondust Dec 2012 #28
That's why every single student needs to be carrying a semi-auto kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #29
Our city deployed raquel69 Dec 2012 #30
Wow, I Hadn't Even Considered the Harassment Issue dballance Dec 2012 #31
It's the "School to Prison" pipeline they intend to fully implement. nt DCKit Dec 2012 #33
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