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Wiz Imp

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41. There has never been sworn testimony in court accusing Trump of raping 14 year old girls
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 02:41 PM
Jul 2025

Last edited Mon Jul 28, 2025, 09:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Only 2 people that I'm aware of have accused Trump of such activity against girls under 18. The first is Sarah Ransome who later admitted she was lying. The second is a girl who filed a lawsuit against Trump under the pseudonym Katie Johnson which she dropped almost immediately. Not saying Trump couldn't be guilty of such, he clearly could, but she never testified in court about it. On the contrary, numerous of Epstein's victims say they never witnessed any wrongdoing by Trump.

However, Trump definitely knew what Epstein was doing and did nothing. That is heinous in and of itself - If Trump had spoken out against Epstein as soon as he knew what Epstein was doing, he may have been able to save hundreds of girls from being victimized by Epstein.

As for Epstein's plea deal, it's a weak argument for Maxwell and anyone else. First of all, the DOJ argued and an appeals court agreed the NPA only applied in Florida. Second, I believe Maxwell's conviction covered crimes committed after the time of the plea agreement. A plea agreement doesn't give you a "get out of jail free" pass for future crimes. Finally, the plea agreement was considered to be illegal, which would mean it is unenforceable. From wikipedia:

A December 30, 2014, federal civil suit was filed in Florida by Jane Doe 1 (Courtney Wild) and Jane Doe 2 against the United States for violations of the Crime Victims' Rights Act by the U.S. Department of Justice's NPA with Epstein and his limited 2008 state plea. There was a later, unsuccessful effort to add Virginia Roberts (Jane Doe 3) and another woman (Jane Doe 4) as plaintiffs to that case. The addition accused Alan Dershowitz of sexually abusing a minor, Jane Doe 3, provided by Epstein. The allegations against Dershowitz were stricken by the judge and eliminated from the case because he said they were outside the intent of the suit to re-open the plea agreement. A document filed in court alleges that Epstein ran a "sexual abuse ring", and lent underage girls to "prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders".

This long-running lawsuit is pending in federal court, aimed at vacating the federal plea agreement on the grounds that it violated victims' rights. On April 7, 2015, Judge Kenneth Marra ruled that the allegations made by alleged victim Virginia Roberts against Prince Andrew had no bearing on the lawsuit by alleged victims seeking to reopen Epstein's non-prosecution plea agreement with the federal government; the judge ordered that allegation to be struck from the record. Judge Marra made no ruling as to whether claims by Roberts are true or false. Though he did not allow Jane Does 3 and 4 to join the suit, Marra specifically said that Roberts may later give evidence when the case comes to court.

On February 21, 2019, in the case of Two Jane Does v. United States, Senior Judge of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida Kenneth Marra said federal prosecutors violated the law by failing to notify victims before they allowed him to plead guilty to only the two Florida offenses. The judge left open what the possible remedy could be.

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Connect the dots Zorro Jul 2025 #1
And tRump held a "contest" where young girls could compete for a spot as a calendar model. YodaMom2 Jul 2025 #3
And participating! sheshe2 Jul 2025 #9
Link? Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #17
Here you go... YodaMom2 Jul 2025 #39
Thank You. I forgot about reading about that. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #42
EXACTLY somethingshiny Jul 2025 #10
Not to loyal maga worshipers, it doesn't. louis-t Jul 2025 #2
Pedophile Derangement Syndrome littlemissmartypants Jul 2025 #22
"....and many of them are on the younger side...." still-prayin4rain Jul 2025 #4
Lots and lots of people covered for Epstein milestogo Jul 2025 #5
He's guilty too. Haggard Celine Jul 2025 #6
Exactly. milestogo Jul 2025 #7
While just having known Epstein isn't *necessarily* evidence Ocelot II Jul 2025 #8
Is there anyone who knows Trump that thinks he isn't capable of this kind of behavior? Walleye Jul 2025 #13
How about this, America? FalloutShelter Jul 2025 #14
Bingo. We don't have to speculate or assume if we listen to the victims and protect them. Ocelot II Jul 2025 #19
Trump's biggest crime related to Epstein is knowing what Epstein was doing and allowing it. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #25
Can you give me a link, please? dpibel Jul 2025 #52
Here's a few that I could pull up quickly. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #57
Thank you dpibel Jul 2025 #60
What about the MEN? The ones paying for all this? If there weren't customers there wouldn't Srkdqltr Jul 2025 #11
Maxwell is doing time for felonies related to this Walleye Jul 2025 #12
He could have molested girls on 5th Ave and his brain dead cult wouldn't care. dem4decades Jul 2025 #15
They would forgive him because "boys will boys" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink). Ping Tung Jul 2025 #35
Law And Order Mr.Bee Jul 2025 #16
If it quacks like a duck... ZDU Jul 2025 #18
Excellent point. Republican "child marriage" advocates don't care. live love laugh Jul 2025 #20
If he keeps the info hidden, MAGA will remain furious. Kablooie Jul 2025 #21
MAGA is expecting the "files" will name Bill Clinton and Bill Gates. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #26
Here's what I'm wondering about... Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #23
What sworn testimony? maxsolomon Jul 2025 #28
Yes, there is a deposition of one of the girls... Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #31
Here it is: Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #33
Thanks. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #40
Here is a Jane Doe sworn statement as well: Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #36
This is from the same person as Katie Johnson Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #44
Katie Johnson Pachamama Jul 2025 #32
There has never been sworn testimony in court accusing Trump of raping 14 year old girls Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #41
Sworn depositions . Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #43
Not Depositions. The document filed under the name Katie Johnson is the actual lawsuit that was filed Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #45
You are free to disagree with me... Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #47
It's only 1 person. That is not victims that is one alleged victim - singular. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #49
Sworn statement of 3 people. Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #50
You're the one in denial Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #56
I didn't say I was a court... Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #58
You are correct...TSF has definitely committed more crimes. nt Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #59
"If you witness adults using kids for sex, you have a duty to report it or you are culpable as well, or at least that's Texin Jul 2025 #24
Fifteen years is a long time to be involved and not be directly responsible. littlemissmartypants Jul 2025 #27
Agree but one correction mcar Jul 2025 #29
Thank you leftstreet Jul 2025 #34
Exactly. And thanks for bringing this up. Abolishinist Jul 2025 #46
I believe all this speculation and debate is a healthy thing for our democracy. sop Jul 2025 #30
It's logical to believe he raped under aged girls just based on what we already know about him. GoodRaisin Jul 2025 #37
Did he buy moondust Jul 2025 #38
Just look at the kook Mormon cults where child rape is accepted by the cultists Mysterian Jul 2025 #48
Nope. Not in the least. Who is going to hold him accountable? BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2025 #51
More than one victim IMO. no_hypocrisy Jul 2025 #53
What about the "customers" or "tourists" as the GOP like to say? usonian Jul 2025 #54
He didn't have sex with girls! Hope22 Jul 2025 #55
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