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ProSense

(116,464 posts) Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:45 PM Dec 2012

After a dramatic week, Social Security is again off the table [View all]

Question: If Democrats were going to sell out, and President Obama really wanted to cut Social Security, why didn't he make Boehner an offer he couldn't refuse?

It would have been the perfect cover. He could have acquiesced on more of the tax cuts and breaks for the wealthy and thrown in something else Republicans absolutely wanted.

He could have done it his first two years when Democrats controlled the House. It was determined that he would do it in the 2012 lame duck using Republicans as cover. So what happened?

Here's an example of how dead chained CPI is, and why it should be.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022048462

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After a dramatic week, Social Security is again off the table [View all] ProSense Dec 2012 OP

The GOP is playing (badly) poker a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #1

The GOP is playing poke the bear. And they just got a chunk of ass chewed off. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2012 #2

I expected the GOP to go down a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #3

Then Mr. Cool gets on tv and says 'United we stand; Divided we fall.' It was a thing of beauty. Gregorian Dec 2012 #4

Yes! An admission by the author of CPI that it hurts the poorer and older ones the most. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #5

Not True...President Obama put it ON THE TABLE...it won't leave... KoKo Dec 2012 #6

It's gone: ProSense Dec 2012 #9

It's not gone....wait and see the NEW YEAR! President made it a bargaining chip... KoKo Dec 2012 #10

Nope, it's gone ProSense Dec 2012 #11

You have posted nothing that shows SS is off the table. woo me with science Dec 2012 #15

Why are you panicking? It's gone ProSense Dec 2012 #19

Where did the President state that SS is off the table? woo me with science Dec 2012 #24

Wow, you're really taking this hard, huh? ProSense Dec 2012 #26

What offer? woo me with science Dec 2012 #29

It's invisible to you. n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #30

Apparently it's so invisible you can't post it. woo me with science Dec 2012 #32

You're right. Please proceed. n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #35

Kicking the can down the road, and making jokes. woo me with science Dec 2012 #46

You forgot that I'm immune to your tired spin. n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #54

There is nothing in that statement that takes SS off the table... rateyes Dec 2012 #53

The President's statements in the video are clear, but there is nothing in your link woo me with science Dec 2012 #16

republicans are so stupid. Obama could promise to step down and take his entire cabinet with him... spanone Dec 2012 #7

. ProSense Dec 2012 #8

Mustn't hurt the poor widdle misunderstood, Cha Dec 2012 #42

Is anything on the table? dkf Dec 2012 #12

Yes: ProSense Dec 2012 #14

Well it looks like Obama is at the table by himself. dkf Dec 2012 #21

No it isn't. woo me with science Dec 2012 #13

Obama Drops the Hammer on Republicans and Pulls Back His Last Fiscal Cliff Proposal ProSense Dec 2012 #17

Then why didn't the President fight austerity instead of colluding woo me with science Dec 2012 #20

My hero Howard Dean. Sigh. dkf Dec 2012 #22

Well, Obama did not mention c-cpi directly in the latest 'deal' however TheProgressive Dec 2012 #18

Well, ProSense Dec 2012 #25

Sorry ProSense, I do not share your absolute conviction that it is off the table... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #27

There is nothing ProSense Dec 2012 #34

In all truth, I hope you are correct. TheProgressive Dec 2012 #37

Imagine that. Just like it was never really there. Hekate Dec 2012 #23

Sorry, but thanks to Obama it will NEVER be off the table (nt) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #28

Oh, welcome to DU...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #33

Yes. By repeatedly validating Republican lies and talking points on SS and austerity, woo me with science Dec 2012 #39

Look ProSense Dec 2012 #44

That's some serious audacity there. woo me with science Dec 2012 #55

That's me: audacious. ProSense Dec 2012 #57

"It's an ongoing struggle," says the orphan looking for sympathy woo me with science Dec 2012 #58

Looking for an easy life? ProSense Dec 2012 #59

No, he never said this is over, woo me with science Dec 2012 #60

Since you're having a hard time ProSense Dec 2012 #61

Answer: Obama doesn't want to cut SS... SidDithers Dec 2012 #31

Then why did he say that he thinks it should be cut? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #41

^^^ this ^^^ TDale313 Dec 2012 #45

I'm losing track, Manny. Was it 22% that he wanted, or 10%, like you posted earlier this week...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #62

Show us the quote, Sid. nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #63

... SidDithers Dec 2012 #64

OK. And in what way are these contradictory or otherwise incorrect? nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #65

no it's not. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #36

Sadly, I don't think that will last long MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #38

It'll never be off the table for some, but ProSense Dec 2012 #47

I expect it will turn up again in the next month. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #48

It'll never get through the Senate ProSense Dec 2012 #50

I hope that you're right nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #51

And on to a very conveniently located, well-lit side table. nt Bonobo Dec 2012 #40

I can't speak for anyone else, it was a long week. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #43

..... for now DJ13 Dec 2012 #49

The "worst aspects" for everyone ProSense Dec 2012 #52

I'm right there with you on that DJ13 Dec 2012 #56

When was the last time you heard... Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #66

Not how I read what he said today: grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #67

No, ProSense Dec 2012 #68