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In reply to the discussion: After a dramatic week, Social Security is again off the table [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)17. Obama Drops the Hammer on Republicans and Pulls Back His Last Fiscal Cliff Proposal
Obama Drops the Hammer on Republicans and Pulls Back His Last Fiscal Cliff Proposal
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022051625
President Obama's latest offer: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022051149
"How about austerity? Can we get austerity off the table?"
That's never off the table. It has to be fought. It was there in 1935 with FDR and it still there.
It's being pushed by Third Way and some Democrats people consider progressive:
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022051625
President Obama's latest offer: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022051149
"How about austerity? Can we get austerity off the table?"
That's never off the table. It has to be fought. It was there in 1935 with FDR and it still there.
It's being pushed by Third Way and some Democrats people consider progressive:
O`DONNELL: Governor Dean, through a different approach, you have ended up in basic agreement with "The Wall Street Journal" at this point. They are saying in their approach, just go off the cliff. That is better than anything Boehner is proposing.
DEAN: Yes.
O`DONNELL: And it`s better that anything you`re going to get in the compromise.
DEAN: Well, here`s -- and I rarely agree with anything on the opinion pages of "The Wall Street Journal." But here`s where -- I`m a deficit hawk. And the reason I`m a deficit hawk is, as a progressive, I know that social programs can only be sustained in the long term if you have a balanced budget, which is what Bill Clinton and his folks did.
So if you really want to be serious about this, you got to attack the deficit. This is the fairest way to attack the deficit of any system I have seen in terms of taxes, in terms of cuts evenly spread. There are some bad cuts in there I don`t like as a progressive in human services.
But everybody is going to have some sacrifice. And I think going over the fiscal cliff is the fairest sacrifice. It`s also coincidentally going to take the biggest bite out of the deficit, which Wall Street should like.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50260060/ns/msnbc/
DEAN: Yes.
O`DONNELL: And it`s better that anything you`re going to get in the compromise.
DEAN: Well, here`s -- and I rarely agree with anything on the opinion pages of "The Wall Street Journal." But here`s where -- I`m a deficit hawk. And the reason I`m a deficit hawk is, as a progressive, I know that social programs can only be sustained in the long term if you have a balanced budget, which is what Bill Clinton and his folks did.
So if you really want to be serious about this, you got to attack the deficit. This is the fairest way to attack the deficit of any system I have seen in terms of taxes, in terms of cuts evenly spread. There are some bad cuts in there I don`t like as a progressive in human services.
But everybody is going to have some sacrifice. And I think going over the fiscal cliff is the fairest sacrifice. It`s also coincidentally going to take the biggest bite out of the deficit, which Wall Street should like.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50260060/ns/msnbc/
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The GOP is playing poke the bear. And they just got a chunk of ass chewed off. nt
Xipe Totec
Dec 2012
#2
Then Mr. Cool gets on tv and says 'United we stand; Divided we fall.' It was a thing of beauty.
Gregorian
Dec 2012
#4
Yes! An admission by the author of CPI that it hurts the poorer and older ones the most.
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#5
It's not gone....wait and see the NEW YEAR! President made it a bargaining chip...
KoKo
Dec 2012
#10
The President's statements in the video are clear, but there is nothing in your link
woo me with science
Dec 2012
#16
republicans are so stupid. Obama could promise to step down and take his entire cabinet with him...
spanone
Dec 2012
#7
Obama Drops the Hammer on Republicans and Pulls Back His Last Fiscal Cliff Proposal
ProSense
Dec 2012
#17
Sorry ProSense, I do not share your absolute conviction that it is off the table...
TheProgressive
Dec 2012
#27
Yes. By repeatedly validating Republican lies and talking points on SS and austerity,
woo me with science
Dec 2012
#39