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caseymoz

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33. Wow. All of this so they can carry guns?

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:44 PM

Dec 2012

To make sure people don't get killed due to their scheme, they need 99,000 more police officers nationwide, coming to $7 billion a year, approximately. Now they have this disturbing invasion of privacy, with the added cost due to that, and what are they protecting? The right to own and carry a weapon that makes them three times as likely to die by a gunshot wound, and which will not make it any more possible to combat tyranny. (See Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and Morocco to see how necessary a well-armed population is at the beginning).

Meanwhile, they want this all done without raising taxes, I take it?

What else are we going to need to make their version of the right to keep and bear arms practical?

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The NRA wants a "national database of the mentally ill." [View all] ehrnst Dec 2012 OP

I'll start doc03 Dec 2012 #1

Next.. llmart Dec 2012 #11

Don't forget Grover Norquist. nt madinmaryland Dec 2012 #39

I try to forget him every chance I get. llmart Dec 2012 #47

Anyone who's a registered member of the Tea Party Patriots. Initech Dec 2012 #41

Cold But Fair, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2012 #2

Bravo! Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #3

I love it BainsBane Dec 2012 #4

So I'm 16, 17, or 20 years old, HockeyMom Dec 2012 #5

But they don't want a national database of gun owners. Blue Idaho Dec 2012 #6

That's what I find most ironic (n/t) Nevernose Dec 2012 #23

+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2012 #51

Do they also nhave to wear gold stars leftyladyfrommo Dec 2012 #7

Only those undiagnosed will have guns when HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #8

Ironically, the symptoms that determine if you are mentally ill dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #13

My diagnosis goes away in DSM-V HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #14

"my dx has no available drug treatment....maybe that's why it's going away??" dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #17

Tons of diagnosis have no drug treatment. Every personality disorder, for starters. Care Acutely Dec 2012 #32

Well if NRA wants to be law abiding why are they so afraid of a National list of people who own southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #9

I think it is a creepy idea just like I think it is creepy that the govt is spying on everyone Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #45

They already know what we are doing now I am sure. Everyone who is on the internet is southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #48

I am not giving up my privacy that easily Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #49

I don't want to either. But don't shoot the messenger it has been happening a long time now. southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #50

I am sorry if I came off that way Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #54

Oh I didn't take it that way. I happen to feel the same way you do. I guess the only way southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #56

I thought they wanted to put all the Teabaggers in the NCIS. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #10

How about the delusion that the gun under your bed is going to stop a tyrant? ehrnst Dec 2012 #12

How about a national database of gun owners and gun incidents? underpants Dec 2012 #15

Yeah, register your brain but not your gun. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #16

Michele Bachmann's favorite gun is the Bushmaster AR-15 used in Newtown [VIDEO] IcyPeas Dec 2012 #18

Well that right there Aerows Dec 2012 #19

If they really do create such a database I want the first name to be Wayne LaPierre's! lastlib Dec 2012 #20

They already have one jmowreader Dec 2012 #21

You beat me to it. renie408 Dec 2012 #35

Someone on twitter pointed out that they NRA was trying to make it illegal applegrove Dec 2012 #22

It passed this year, secondvariety Dec 2012 #24

This may come as a shock to some, but we already have a database for just that purpose! slackmaster Dec 2012 #25

So they must have another motive. Follow the money. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #27

I'd like to buy you a chicken leg, and subscribe to your newsletter! slackmaster Dec 2012 #28

Bravo! nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #46

The problem is its woefully incomplete because a lot of data doesn't get there.... Historic NY Dec 2012 #30

Yes, there may be a conflict between HIPAA and state analogues, and the reporting requirement slackmaster Dec 2012 #31

Its been needing fixing for 20 years...guess there isn't a hurry. Historic NY Dec 2012 #34

It's funny how that works. Everything is fine until something horrible happens... slackmaster Dec 2012 #38

I wrote the technical documentation for that software/ ehrnst Dec 2012 #57

At the end of the day it does work, at least to the extent that the data in the database... slackmaster Dec 2012 #58

Anyone who is rejected for a sale gets information on how to find out ehrnst Dec 2012 #59

But not guns. nt valerief Dec 2012 #26

I think it is highly offensive to people with mental illness thucythucy Dec 2012 #29

Don't you just love the "disagreeing with me is a psychiatric disorder" meme this place gets? (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #36

Wow. All of this so they can carry guns? caseymoz Dec 2012 #33

lol. nt ecstatic Dec 2012 #37

They could start with their membership list. joeunderdog Dec 2012 #40

them, and tea party members. ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2012 #52

There probably already *is* one, or the means to make one. Computerized prescriptions, those HiPointDem Dec 2012 #42

Mental health adjudications and involuntary commitments are supposed to be reported to FBI/NICS slackmaster Dec 2012 #43

there's another data base to draw from. it's conceivable that under the right circumstances all HiPointDem Dec 2012 #44

or their current membership list samsingh Dec 2012 #53

I didn't realize I was mentally ill. krispos42 Dec 2012 #55

Not all members in the NRA are in that category ehrnst Dec 2012 #60

Becuse it's against HIPPA sorefeet Dec 2012 #61

Sure. Let Wayne LaPierre be the first to be tested lunatica Dec 2012 #62