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NNadir

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38. It all depends on what one regards as "culture." For many years when I was a kid in the lab, people would come in...
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 04:52 PM
Jul 2025

...report what was on the latest episode of some television show series, Seinfeld, LA Law, whatever, and I had no idea about what they were talking. In some of the conversations these people would be speaking as if the characters were real people.

In general, they were fairly good scientists, but I'd like to suggest that they could have been better scientists if the fully embraced the culture behind their work, science.

Last year, my son brought home his girlfriend, a nuclear engineer from an inland state where they are both graduate students, who had never been to New Jersey. We rented a place at a New Jersey Beach where - I didn't know this - the "reality(?) show" Jersey Shore was filmed, Seaside Heights. To try to understand "New Jersey culture" apparently she watched the show (with my son).

So my wife and I who had never seen the show, got a few episodes out of the library and watched them.

We were appalled. (We live near Princeton, where people like Albert Einstein, Robert Oppenheimer, John Von Neumann, Kurt Wiles, Alan Turing, Toni Morrison, on and on and on worked and lived.)

I'm not a cultural anthropologist. I do feel educated enough and well within my rights to take short peeks into other cultures and be happy to understand that while I may not know much about a culture, I'm comfortable saying I'm not willing to go deeper. There isn't time in one's life to not rely in many instances on snap judgements.

(I have no problem with people rejecting New Jersey from watching Jersey Shore. As the best State in the Nation, and a geographically small state, we're overcrowded. I will say that as a young man growing up on Long Island, my opinion of New Jersey was rather poor, but it turned out that I was, just in time, disabused of my ignorance.)

I don't know who Sydney Sweeney is, and frankly I don't care, but I do think there is a genetic reductionist intent for the double entendre and frankly, I find it offensive, but not so much that I'm willing to spend all that much time on it.

The planet is going fascist, and while the ad may be trivial, I do see it as racist, and as I am more than a little raw over the affair, I feel comfortable with my outrage. I really don't need to know more about Sydney Sweeney to feel it.

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Knr NNadir Jul 2025 #1
It amazes me what people take offense over. The Mouth Jul 2025 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #37
Is it really a controversy ? JI7 Jul 2025 #2
The video is long but you can get the main idea after a couple of minutes. Iris Jul 2025 #4
I can't watch the video right now so just did a search JI7 Jul 2025 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Jul 2025 #6
There is more than one ad, but let me know when poc do this exact ad. 58Sunliner Jul 2025 #7
Not just stereotypical attractive SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #8
It's said about non white people considered attractive also JI7 Jul 2025 #10
Not the point SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #13
That seems like looking for a reason to be offended EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #15
More than just one person on YouTube SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #16
"Sounds like something out of 1930s Germany..." TheProle Jul 2025 #17
Still sounds like SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #19
Adriana Lima has good genes... and identifies as Afro-Brazilian. WarGamer Jul 2025 #28
Irrelevant SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #30
Simply because she's "trendy" right now... WarGamer Jul 2025 #32
Maybe SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #34
I tend to steer away from easily offended people. Bluesaph Aug 2025 #53
Maybe they are SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #54
We also can see where culture waring has NOT gotten us..the White House Bluesaph Aug 2025 #55
Democrats don't culture war SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #56
Another one of American Eagle's main spokespeople is Coco Gauff, so there is that Celerity Jul 2025 #12
It's the messaging SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #18
It's wordplay. genes jeans, get it? pcdb Jul 2025 #27
How is that being a puritan? SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #29
I finally watched it today SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #33
Apparently for some, i.e. those who look for fault in everyone. Why, it's 1930's Germany all over again! Abolishinist Jul 2025 #24
She threw a maga themed SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2025 #42
Sounds maga themed SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2025 #45
I'm not going to play thought police SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #46
I prefer to focus on truly dangerous people who are in actual positions of power to pursue horrific racist/christofash Celerity Aug 2025 #47
And you have every right to focus SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #48
Not the point, not even a good spin on your part. Abolishinist Aug 2025 #51
Bill Maher sucks SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #52
Starting off with "I don't know who Sydney Sweeney is" was a bad rhetorical choice Prairie Gates Jul 2025 #9
+100 Celerity Jul 2025 #11
It reminds me of those who proudly proclaim SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #14
Use Google? Really? thought crime Jul 2025 #20
Most don't proudly proclaim it womanofthehills Aug 2025 #49
Whatever works for you is great SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #50
Good point about the pride of ignorance fujiyamasan Jul 2025 #21
You're giving ad execs too much credit SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #22
That's probably true fujiyamasan Jul 2025 #23
I don't know what else she's done but she was in Season 2 of The Handmaid's Tale. Crunchy Frog Jul 2025 #26
It all depends on what one regards as "culture." For many years when I was a kid in the lab, people would come in... NNadir Jul 2025 #38
We've come a long way as a society. LudwigPastorius Jul 2025 #25
She's a Magat obamanut2012 Jul 2025 #31
She does have great genes for what is considered DenaliDemocrat Jul 2025 #36
This "controversy" is the height of stupidity Justice Brandeis Jul 2025 #39
Seems to be working: EX500rider Aug 2025 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Aug 2025 #41
then there is this: Celerity Aug 2025 #43
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