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fujiyamasan

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39. Do you see the SC splitting the difference

Thu Jul 31, 2025, 11:36 PM

Jul 2025

And allowing birthright citizenship for children of valid visa holders but not of undocumented parents?
Kinda of curious how they interpret this.

The whole question of jurisdiction is ridiculous on face value. I also don’t understand how the SC would permit such a massive change without any congressional approval, but I didn’t realize this much power would exist solely with the executive branch, overturning decades of interpretation of the fourteenth amendment.

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Trump Just Released His Plan to Revoke Birthright Citizenship. It's Worse Than Imagined. [View all] sheshe2 Jul 2025 OP

Does this mean that Melodrama and Barron will move to Slovenia? greatauntoftriplets Jul 2025 #1

As has been explained numerous times - Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #5

And as we have seen, he changes his mind every other day. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #18

The plans conform to the executive order. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #26

Trump never keeps his word snowybirdie Aug 2025 #52

This isn't about Trump keeping his word. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #57

This is about Trump operating by Chaos Doctrine and Shock Doctrine & getting away with it Hekate Aug 2025 #65

The Executive Order on birthright citizenship is different. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #68

Was written by the authors of Project 2025. orangecrush Aug 2025 #84

Yup. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #85

How can the Constitution be changed by executive order when an amendment is required for changes? wnylib Aug 2025 #67

The executive order does not change the constitution. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #72

But, the children born in this country are subject to its jurisdiction, as are their parents, whether documented or not. wnylib Aug 2025 #86

I agree. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #87

Plus; Trump already being a citizen would fit the "new" standard Callie1979 Aug 2025 #77

More to the point . . . Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #80

Ah yes, the 'ol "Get THOSE people, not OUR people". nt Callie1979 Aug 2025 #81

What's the significance of the date 20 Feb 2025? Farmer-Rick Aug 2025 #78

The executive order designated 30 days from the signing date of the order Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #79

Thanks, I was wondering Farmer-Rick Aug 2025 #83

Oh, but there will be exceptions shanti Jul 2025 #30

I wish! sheshe2 Aug 2025 #42

White people are exempt from all laws Johonny Aug 2025 #48

How about Rebl2 Aug 2025 #56

No, because they're white. MaineBlueBear Aug 2025 #63

Iceberg Trump consistently tries to get in the way of Titanic America. chouchou Jul 2025 #2

Sound arbitrary - harumph Jul 2025 #3

Read the executive order, Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #6

Thanks harumph Jul 2025 #8

I hope they will see now nonsensical Trump's argument is. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #9

Seriously? sheshe2 Aug 2025 #44

There have been a number of instances in which they have not agreed with Trump. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #61

Oh I hope that stands. summer_in_TX Jul 2025 #25

Your daughter-in-law will be fine. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #31

Thank you, Ms. Toad! summer_in_TX Jul 2025 #38

Do you see the SC splitting the difference fujiyamasan Jul 2025 #39

This is the language describing the group of individuals not granted citizenship Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #60

Also, ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 Celerity Aug 2025 #46

Good thought - Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #59

You do not know Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #49

As to this order, yes I do know. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #58

Why Feb 20, 2025? Why not the day it was signed? Is 2/20 the date Heritage Foundation wrote it? LiberalArkie Aug 2025 #70

Again, read the executive order. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #71

Ok, I was thinking that today was the date of the order. LiberalArkie Aug 2025 #74

Nope - Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #76

The answer my friend... sheshe2 Jul 2025 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author cbabe Jul 2025 #4

Linking to a debunked meme - Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #35

Does that mean that his 4 children born of immigrants can also be stripped of birthright citizenship? kimbutgar Jul 2025 #7

No. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #33

They will be drawn and quartered on Truth Social LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2025 #82

Trump and his MAGAS strip people of B.See Jul 2025 #10

This right here. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #12

Once denying birthright citizenship becomes acceptable, even if it's only for those born after a certain date, sop Jul 2025 #17

Changing the date AND B.See Jul 2025 #21

Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 (with Celerity Aug 2025 #47

" inherit the status of their parents" DBoon Jul 2025 #11

Waiting to rip them from the delivery room. nt moniss Jul 2025 #13

I can only hope we have something similar JMCKUSICK Jul 2025 #14

Crimes against humanity! FuzzyRabbit Jul 2025 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author FuzzyRabbit Jul 2025 #37

We will now see how far the S. Court Nigrum Cattus Jul 2025 #15

The only thing that needs to be removed are these shitheads from the White House. Initech Jul 2025 #16

Now immigrants won't even go to tbe hospital Figarosmom Jul 2025 #20

Cue The Handmaid's Tale. BattleRow Aug 2025 #55

Looks like that time has come. calimary Aug 2025 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #22

I wish he'd go back to hell and leave the fuck alone. rickyhall Jul 2025 #23

My daughter-in-law's parents were not citizens when they had her although she was born here. summer_in_TX Jul 2025 #24

still unfucking constitutional. pansypoo53219 Jul 2025 #27

trump wipes his ass with the Constitution, Bayard Jul 2025 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Jul 2025 #29

Parents who "...lack permanent legal status...". Like Barron. Grins Jul 2025 #32

TACO if he's running it uponit7771 Jul 2025 #34

Trump's perfect judge... Roland Freisler Norrrm Aug 2025 #40

Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #41

if he wants to revoke his OWN citizenship, I'm good with that--- Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #43

Fred Trump, his father, was born in NYC on October 11th, 1905 Celerity Aug 2025 #45

Yeah, they were supposed to be only deporting Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #50

As someone whose drmeow Aug 2025 #51

This man is a monster... GiqueCee Aug 2025 #53

Red states will now stop issuing birth certificates for babies born here to undocumented parents. Lonestarblue Aug 2025 #54

The constitution can be amended, but not by Stephen Miller, dba. Trump DFW Aug 2025 #62

Sickening indeed YoshidaYui Aug 2025 #64

it's unspeakably evil LymphocyteLover Aug 2025 #66

Clearly Unconstitutional. cstanleytech Aug 2025 #69

ICE at the delivery room door. North Coast Lawyer Aug 2025 #75

What if the father is unknown? Kablooie Aug 2025 #88