BULLSHIT that it's a victory. Let's get our compasses straight as Democrats.

[woo me with science]

189. And people who are upset with the corporate takeover of our party?

And with the fact that Democrats have now gone so far right as to put themselves in the business of imposing austerity, against the will of the people, in an economy that has already impoverished its middle class and created the second highest level of child poverty in the developed nations?

Do you have contempt for them, too?

cliffordu, I honestly have little use or care for your contempt, beyond being very sad that a discussion board that used to be pretty good about demanding adherence to liberal values and policy positions now welcomes and protects corporate propaganda up to and including advocating using our fundamental safety nets as bargaining chips.

I do think this discussion has already illustrated what it needs to illustrate.

I will say this: Getting people elected is meaningless if those people do not work on behalf of those who elected them. I am heartened that this OP is now at the top of the Greatest Page; it gives me hope to see so many Democrats being clear-eyed about what is happening to our party, because then we might actually have some chance of repairing it. I think, rather than attacking people who express these sentiments, you might want to think about what they are trying to express to you.

*Particularly* if you know people who get people elected.