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ChoralScholar

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60. I taught in Harrison, Arkansas

Reply to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:49 AM

Dec 2012

and we had a Harrison Police Department officer in every building in the district. Four elementary schools, a middle school, a junior high, and a high school - each of which had their officer's salary paid half by the school district and half by the city.

It was a great program, and I'm glad the district and city were willing to pay for it. There are a lot of intangibles that I think made it worthwhile; not the least of which was improving relationships between students and the police.

But it's not the answer to what happened at Sandy Hook. We had a great officer in our school, and he wore kevlar and carried a gun - but it's a big campus, and he might not have been able to stop an intruder with an assault weapon before many students were injured or killed. It's only a guy with a handgun, not Superman.

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I taught in Harrison, Arkansas ChoralScholar Dec 2012 #60

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