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womanofthehills

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19. I think it's cruel to poison any animal
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 01:29 PM
Aug 2025

Electronic rat and mouse traps are cheap on Amazon and kill instantly. Even putting a bucket of water out for mice to climb in and die is more humane than to poison animals.

I live out in the country on 40 acres with tons of mice and pack rats. I set and reset electronic traps in my car, shed and house. I’m into compassionate killing of any animal. I would never have POISON on my property.

Grok

The suffering a poisoned mouse experiences depends on the type of poison used:

- **Anticoagulant rodenticides** (e.g., warfarin, bromadiolone): These cause internal bleeding, leading to weakness, lethargy, and pain over **3 to 7 days**. The mouse may experience discomfort from organ damage or blood loss, potentially suffering for days before death.
- **Acute poisons** (e.g., bromethalin, zinc phosphide): Bromethalin causes neurological distress, including tremors, seizures, and paralysis, within **hours to 1-3 days**. Zinc phosphide leads to rapid stomach pain, nausea, and breathing difficulties, often killing within **hours**. Suffering is intense but shorter-lived.
- **Cholecalciferol** (vitamin D3): This induces organ failure and severe lethargy, with symptoms like dehydration and weakness causing discomfort over **2 to 4 days**.

All rodenticides cause some level of distress, ranging from prolonged moderate pain (anticoagulants) to acute severe symptoms (bromethalin, zinc phosphide). If humane pest control is a concern, non-lethal traps or deterrents may be worth exploring.” - Grok

Also - as far as country cats go. My cats are surrounded by so many birds and lizards - they are no longer that into them. I watched a bird land a few feet from my cat Lucky - and he just looked at the bird with part interest. I also found lucky just sitting a foot away from a rattlesnake looking at it. Of course, I scooped him up.

My friend had poison for mice in her closet- left the closet door open - her puppy ate it and died a painful death during the time they tried to save him. I really fucking hate pesticides. If she had an electronic traps, her sweet puppy would be alive.

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Another reason to avoid pork. multigraincracker Aug 2025 #1
What are the others? Polybius Aug 2025 #17
Didn't Trump 1.0 leave it to the pork industry to do their own 'inspections'? Attilatheblond Aug 2025 #26
Any toxicology studies on growth hormone and rodenticide? bucolic_frolic Aug 2025 #2
So... if you have a cat that hunts, he is at risk if he eats rodents. milestogo Aug 2025 #3
No the rat or mouse who ingested the poison did not ingest enough to be toxic to the cat and besides cats unless Botany Aug 2025 #7
I have no cats, only a well fed dog. milestogo Aug 2025 #8
That's not exactly correct re: not being poisoned by predation of poisoned rodents. Having worked in natural resources KPN Aug 2025 #9
Not to mention raptors misanthrope Aug 2025 #10
I haven't heard about that. Thanx. That is surprising because with cougars weighing 150 Lbs + the rats corpses must... Botany Aug 2025 #13
Rodents can consume a huge amount of rodenticide in a short time and often do. It is not unusual to not find a corpse KPN Aug 2025 #15
I think it's cruel to poison any animal womanofthehills Aug 2025 #19
I use a Bromethalin rat bait. I glue it into the middle of 18" 3 to 4" diameter pvc pipe. This takes advantage of the Botany Aug 2025 #27
If you let your cat out to hunt, you're an idiot NickB79 Aug 2025 #24
Props for the 1984 reference. yardwork Aug 2025 #4
Many farmers use rat poison to keep rodent populations in check Keepthesoulalive Aug 2025 #5
Those are the same farmers that probably use tons of chemicals on their crops womanofthehills Aug 2025 #20
Judging by the number of farmers who voted for Keepthesoulalive Aug 2025 #21
Dammit. My victory gin jug is empty. Swede Aug 2025 #6
Cause & Effect Chilopsis Aug 2025 #11
How cruel these policies are Erda Aug 2025 #12
Yet another reason to avoid eating flesh IbogaProject Aug 2025 #14
I will only eat grass fed/grass finished beef. womanofthehills Aug 2025 #22
Another reason why we need literally anybody else in charge of public health but the brain worm guy. Initech Aug 2025 #16
Actually- like him or hate him - he is getting toxic ingredients out of foods womanofthehills Aug 2025 #25
RFK, Jr. says they are OK to eat if you run them over with your car first. Midnight Writer Aug 2025 #18
The wild pigs probably ate the bait themselves! LeftInTX Aug 2025 #23
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