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21. Ok

So we separate Hamas with Gaza civilians and Israel with Israeli civilians. When I speak of Israel attacking Gaza civilians I don't think there is anyone out there that thinks I mean Israeli civilians attacking Gaza civilians so I wouldn't naturally think to denote it as such. When we say Russia is attacking Ukraine no one I know gets upset and says that is wrong because we all know it means the Russian government attacking Ukraine. Say America attacked Iraq and no one thinks you are speaking about American civilians attacking Iraq everyone understands that it means the American government. The reason it had to be pointed out that some were conflating Hamas with Gaza is that a lot of Gaza civilians were getting killed instead of hamas, people started to object to it and others were saying it was justified because their government was hamas.
So what's the verdict? Are the Israelis accountable for what happens in Gaza, or is it Netanyahu (or the Knesset or the Likud Party)?
Yes, all of them are accountable to a small or larger degree.
Lets re-frame it.
So what's the verdict? Are the Gazans accountable for what happened in Israel, or is it Hamas?"
Yes, all of them are accountable to a small or larger degree.
Of course its the civilians and especially the civilians who are against their Governments action that hold the smallest degree of accountability.
When we talk of America attacking Iraq I dont wash my hands of it and say I am not at least partially responsible even though I was against it 100%. My country did that, emphasis "My". I dont say "The American government attacked Iraq and killed lots of people when we didnt have to" I say "America attacked Iraq and killed lots of people when we didn't have to". I am responsible to a smaller degree what my country does. I am also responsible to a smaller degree when my country does bad things for good reasons or bad things for the least bad reason. WW2 is full of us doing bad things for the least bad reason. We killed lots of civilians for what we thought was the least bad reason then and thankfully it seems to have stood the test of time. That still means we as a country and as a people bear accountability for that. Not all of it and not even the majority of it. But we do. We are accountable for our actions, as individuals and as a country. Using the "they made us do it" is the height of cowardice and leads to actions down the road that are best not done.
Ill end with this last question, who killed the civilians in Germany in WW2 from the American bombings? America or Germany? The answer of course is America and I don't need to say the American government for people to know that is what is meant.