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randome

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63. I don't know from experience.

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:09 PM

Dec 2012

But someone failed to recognize that this guy was on the verge of a breakdown. I don't know if the parents can be said to be at fault. I don't know if the medical profession can be said to be at fault.

Most likely, it's a combination of all those plus the availabilty of guns, etc.

'Blame the mother' suggestions hold a little more weight with me. Sometimes the mother IS to blame. In this case, it was her guns and her survivalist 'neurosis' -for lack of a better word- that contributed to the situation.

But all anyone has to go on now is speculation. To say that the mother is NOT to blame is equally speculative.

On edit: Actually, I DO have some experience. Not with having someone committed but my mother is a hoarder. I never tried to have her committed but I do know how difficult it is to get someone to recognize a problem. She is forever outside my attempts to reason with her.

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A motive is emerging (Sandy Hook shooting) [View all] lbrtbell Dec 2012 OP

this article makes me queasy. cali Dec 2012 #1

Exactly. HappyMe Dec 2012 #4

I agree - lots of assumptions flying_wahini Dec 2012 #6

Yes. Mass Dec 2012 #7

the article makes me angry Enrique Dec 2012 #10

Not only that, the OP tries to pass off obvious conjecture as "logical conclusions" Major Nikon Dec 2012 #34

Agreed. n/t agracie Dec 2012 #22

That's what I was thinking...Sounds like a bunch of recycled rumors we've all heard before. Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #60

same here... spanone Dec 2012 #102

Nancy Lanza was not a teacher... DonViejo Dec 2012 #103

You've drawn a pretty extreme conclusion The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #2

No, I've drawn a logical conclusion lbrtbell Dec 2012 #5

there is notthing whatsoever logical cali Dec 2012 #17

Your conclusion is absolute drivel. DURHAM D Dec 2012 #38

"Drivel" Puglover Dec 2012 #41

I certainly am not going to judge unless I was in her shoes adigal Dec 2012 #77

i agree deek Dec 2012 #113

Read an article that said she was planning a move to Washington State and making JaneyVee Dec 2012 #3

His father supported his family well lbrtbell Dec 2012 #11

You're wrong. Very wrong. muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #50

Is it known now that she left the guns unlocked? ZombieMan Dec 2012 #82

According to the article above forthemiddle Dec 2012 #91

So you just believe it because you read it?! 80-10-10 raw vegan Dec 2012 #96

"Motive" my ass. Sometimes crazy is just crazy. Nice try blaming the mom. txwhitedove Dec 2012 #8

Bigoted is just bigoted lbrtbell Dec 2012 #12

I have tremendous compassion for the mentally ill. My mother was mentally ill. Fine, she put it txwhitedove Dec 2012 #18

Wow, glad you've identified your monster. (nt) enough Dec 2012 #9

There is no "monster" lbrtbell Dec 2012 #13

"The world isn't all black and white" kdmorris Dec 2012 #19

mine too obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #108

Way to go screaming half cocked off a cliff! lunatica Dec 2012 #14

Hey, blame the victim! XemaSab Dec 2012 #15

read "I am Adam Lanza's mother" Enrique Dec 2012 #16

It may have passed unnoticed by you dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #20

Dismissed by whom? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #32

Search using the title and the authors name. dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #97

You're the one who made the claim. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #98

I don't need to dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #99

i second that 'dismissed by whom' mopinko Dec 2012 #37

They seem to be recycling.. Disgraceland Dec 2012 #21

Most of the OP was just made up by the OP poster. DURHAM D Dec 2012 #42

When you've raised a mentally ill child, come back and post this same thing. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2012 #23

Possibly said first by the inventor of the sandwich muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #53

Talk about shoddy journalism, this article takes arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #24

Wow - dump all responsibility on the mom - that's cute. kstewart33 Dec 2012 #25

Being 'completely nuts' is treatable. randome Dec 2012 #27

Thank you. Myrina Dec 2012 #29

Not all forms of mental illness are treatable Major Nikon Dec 2012 #36

Of course. randome Dec 2012 #43

I think some sort of coherent picture will develop eventually Major Nikon Dec 2012 #44

and you know this from experience? Please explain to me how to get an adult "committed" libdem4life Dec 2012 #54

I don't know from experience. randome Dec 2012 #63

She did not fail to notice...she was making plans to take him to Washington for care. libdem4life Dec 2012 #72

This is scary jehop61 Dec 2012 #26

Thank you! chewygalacticcenter. Dec 2012 #59

A tragedy with so few details, or conflicting details.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #105

That pretty much sums it up. randome Dec 2012 #107

You seem to have no compassion. . . Springslips Dec 2012 #28

Yet the school district has denied that she worked or volunteered there. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #30

Is this real or the latest media concoction to fill a slowing news stream ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #31

Baseless speculation, blaming the mother, this is really low. yardwork Dec 2012 #33

I'd say a bit-o-background might be emerging.. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #35

Oh, and the state trooper during a presser recently said chewygalacticcenter. Dec 2012 #61

Yes, there are a lot of contradictions. nt HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #69

Oh well that's nice gollygee Dec 2012 #39

The source of that speculation is a local pastor's son. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #40

And remember the "people at the bar" chewygalacticcenter. Dec 2012 #62

And the landscaper, who had never been in the house. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #68

Oh yah, more bullshit from the rag press TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #45

So much for logical conclusions and compassion Major Nikon Dec 2012 #47

Wow! She kept her guns raquel69 Dec 2012 #94

the basement was huge TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #100

Um, not to quibble too much but how is a gun safe secured? randome Dec 2012 #101

like I said TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #111

Considering Blaming the Victim... this might take the cake. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #46

thank you green for victory Dec 2012 #64

You say you have 'compassion' for the mentally ill, but judging from your OP, I doubt coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #48

Where's your condemnation of the father in all this?... TeeYiYi Dec 2012 #49

Ban all guns of any type and all bullets. It was the gun that did this. And blame Ralph Nader graham4anything Dec 2012 #51

I agree. laundry_queen Dec 2012 #71

After the shooting at the Amish School in 2006 Cerridwen Dec 2012 #52

She deserves a lot of blame just for owning a military weapon. nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #55

As Americans, we don't do complicated DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #56

You forgot god, women's rights, the dad.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #109

Seek help. Seriously. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #57

That was my impression as well arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #65

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #58

Sorry, "she made him do it" doesn't fly. MadrasT Dec 2012 #66

But she's a mom! gollygee Dec 2012 #67

I don't buy it... frostfern Dec 2012 #70

It appears to me there's a lot of speculation in your post. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #74

MUST DEFLECT FROM FIREARMS BEING USED IN A MASS MURDER. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #73

Because no one commits mass muder... HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #75

They do but much, MUCH less frequently. randome Dec 2012 #76

Both killed more than Sandy Hook, however. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #78

Good point gollygee Dec 2012 #81

And propane, fertilizer, and lighter fluid? HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #84

Fertilizer Purchases - monitored since OK; Molotov Cocktails- a bigger threat to public safety than Pachamama Dec 2012 #79

Yes, gasoline is an easily obtained weapon. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #86

So easy. You make it so easy. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #80

Would you like some numbers? HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #87

MUST REDIRECT TO MY FAVORITE PET THEORY ON THE CRIME customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #90

Adam's classmates say you couldn't pry words out of him BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #83

Yes, it's a mystery. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #95

Where is the unrec button when you need it? Chorophyll Dec 2012 #85

This supports my theory customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #88

I have nothing but anger and contempt for Nancy Lanza. She didn't get rid of the GUNS!! Dems to Win Dec 2012 #89

I want to know raquel69 Dec 2012 #92

looks like a post at FreeRepublic, few facts, and alot of assumsions putitinD Dec 2012 #93

You are blaming the mother CitizenPatriot Dec 2012 #104

100% BS obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #106

If this was true, then I'd expect it would have emerged within 2 days of the shooting, not 2 weeks ShadowLiberal Dec 2012 #110

"That woman"? Let's not forget Lanza had TWO parents. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #112