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In reply to the discussion: Can anyone make a coherent argument that guns are LESS dangerous than cars? i doubt it... [View all]farminator3000
(2,117 posts)125. 'you are wrong' is not the proper way to begin an argument
I negotiated with the dealer, the company cut a check, I delivered the check, the dealer delivered the vehicle to our shop. The year before that we purchased an F-450. They do not give a damn what we are going to do with that trucks, they never even asked.
nobody buys a truck to murder somebody. "do you think you might hurt somebody with this truck?" really?
i like the other part, about the dealer delivering it to an address that is on paper. to leave a trail. of paper. so if someone steals that truck and kills someone (by accident most likely), you might realize that you shouldn't leave your truck (gun) unlocked
As far as the drivers license, you need one to buy a gun too. Same same.
if you are going to say something as completely false as that, please produce a list of states where you need a license to buy "a gun"
there are lots of types of "guns", but i think you'll see that list will be very short
to make it true you'd say- "you need a DL to go on public roads, but only need a license for a very limited amount of guns"
see how that works?
I can buy any thing I want used, and as long as I have cash no one is going to ask me squat. I do not think you should be able to acquire a gun that way, right now you can.
but if you want to use it, there are many regulations
see above- list of regulations=very short list
I am pretty sure there are "regulations" against shooting people. Pretty sure there are "regulations" saying you can not carry a weapon into school. Once you have made the decision to kill someone, you have decided to break the law. I want it to be harder to get that weapon, unlike a car.
Just like there are "regulations" against driving a car without licenses, registrations, and insurance, If you are willing to pay the penalty for doing those things, you can do them. People drive with bad tags and no insurance every day, those "regulations" that should hold guns to same standard as cars are broken hundreds of thousands of times a year.
"guns are cheaper and easier", and they should not be. Guns should be considerably more difficult to acquire than a car. Registration, ownership, and transfers need to be controlled a hell of a lot more than cars. And the penalties for breaking those "regulations" should not be able to be an hour class on "defensive driving" or a $250 fine.
you are saying guns are more dangerous than cars here. took out the bad parts for you
Cars/Guns ... horrible comparison.
yet you keep making it. how odd. maybe lurker deranged would be more appropriate?
nobody buys a truck to murder somebody. "do you think you might hurt somebody with this truck?" really?
i like the other part, about the dealer delivering it to an address that is on paper. to leave a trail. of paper. so if someone steals that truck and kills someone (by accident most likely), you might realize that you shouldn't leave your truck (gun) unlocked
As far as the drivers license, you need one to buy a gun too. Same same.
if you are going to say something as completely false as that, please produce a list of states where you need a license to buy "a gun"
there are lots of types of "guns", but i think you'll see that list will be very short
to make it true you'd say- "you need a DL to go on public roads, but only need a license for a very limited amount of guns"
see how that works?
I can buy any thing I want used, and as long as I have cash no one is going to ask me squat. I do not think you should be able to acquire a gun that way, right now you can.
but if you want to use it, there are many regulations
see above- list of regulations=very short list
I am pretty sure there are "regulations" against shooting people. Pretty sure there are "regulations" saying you can not carry a weapon into school. Once you have made the decision to kill someone, you have decided to break the law. I want it to be harder to get that weapon, unlike a car.
Just like there are "regulations" against driving a car without licenses, registrations, and insurance, If you are willing to pay the penalty for doing those things, you can do them. People drive with bad tags and no insurance every day, those "regulations" that should hold guns to same standard as cars are broken hundreds of thousands of times a year.
"guns are cheaper and easier", and they should not be. Guns should be considerably more difficult to acquire than a car. Registration, ownership, and transfers need to be controlled a hell of a lot more than cars. And the penalties for breaking those "regulations" should not be able to be an hour class on "defensive driving" or a $250 fine.
you are saying guns are more dangerous than cars here. took out the bad parts for you
Cars/Guns ... horrible comparison.
yet you keep making it. how odd. maybe lurker deranged would be more appropriate?
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Can anyone make a coherent argument that guns are LESS dangerous than cars? i doubt it... [View all]
farminator3000
Dec 2012
OP
Currently a given gun in the US is less likely to kill or injure someone than a given car
Recursion
Dec 2012
#1
The whole gun cars argument is ridicules on it's face. Guns are manufactured to kill. Cars are not.
Lint Head
Dec 2012
#5
I don't understand your reply. Guns are manufactured to kill just like nuclear weapons.
Lint Head
Dec 2012
#18
So why not regulate guns as much car design and operation is regulated?
aint_no_life_nowhere
Dec 2012
#10
Sorry but I have yet to see a convincing argument that the comparison is foolish
aint_no_life_nowhere
Dec 2012
#76
it just got more foolish- my cat hit a button and changed 'car' to 'gun' somehow in your thing here
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#67
i most certainly am not talking about removing gun regs., i am saying regulate the crap out of them
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#87
Firearm death rates have been pretty steady for many years. Vehicle death rates have fallen.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#13
"just because you are a responsible gun owner, you have no idea about the other 99,999,999."
Rex
Dec 2012
#119
political opinions also don't change reality in general. you are not clairvoyant. things don't
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#69
Silly troll....very few deaths caused by firearms are purely accidental, whereas....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#33
My post was in plain English....I should have guessed a troll wouldn't understand it. nt.
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#40
technically, by repeating yourself and saying nothing about what i said, YOU ARE THE TROLL, yes?
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#43
Your original OP was a waste of time from your very first word. You have no point to make....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#45
You have to do two separate queries at WISQARS, but it does confirm krispos423's claim
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#88
1991 (a peak year) - 10.38 per 100,000. 2010 (most recent year available) - 5.29
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#94
That means that you are less likely to be a victim of homicide now than you were 20 years ago
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#100
No, there is a lower percentage of murderous people in the population than there was 20 years ago
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#113
Not really, but I can prove beyond any doubt that cars are more useful in everyday life for the
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#101
Until any soldier of any nation is issued a Ford Fusion instead of a firearm, this line of argument
Ikonoklast
Dec 2012
#126