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ProSense

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44. Admit?

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:45 PM

Dec 2012

"aha, so you admit "nothing" is an alternative"

Eureka! Nothing is always an alternative. I for one prefer going over the cliff.

"It's better to fight for something good and lose, than to fight for a cow pie and win and then try to tell the people that the cow pie is really chocolate cake and that we won."

Simplistic. Fighting for "something good" and losing doesn't mean nothing. Sometimes pushing for nothing instead of accepting the next best option is idiotic. It depends on what the next best option represents. "Doesn't go far enough" isn't synonymous with "bad"

That was the case with health care reform: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022037724

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Report: White House Considers Smaller Fiscal Cliff Deal [View all] ProSense Dec 2012 OP

That might actually be the best proposal yet. Skinner Dec 2012 #1

Yup, everyone should push for this ProSense Dec 2012 #4

So...put something out there that was designed to expose Boehner for the teabagging douchenozzle Fridays Child Dec 2012 #2

that's what I was hoping for lasttrip Dec 2012 #3

This is what should have been done all along frazzled Dec 2012 #5

If he lets it pass on mostly democrat votes, then it is passing against GOP votes. julian09 Dec 2012 #12

I'm just sitting her enjoying the implosion of the conservative movement. jrobbi Dec 2012 #6

Thats what I expected to happen. DCBob Dec 2012 #7

then it will just move the fight to debt extension.... gov't shutdown will be the new hostage.. n/t Mr Peabody Dec 2012 #8

No, it will not. ProSense Dec 2012 #9

he/she is talking about the debt ceiling Enrique Dec 2012 #23

Right, and Republicans will have no leverage ProSense Dec 2012 #24

ha, they'll have no leverage Enrique Dec 2012 #27

Huh? ProSense Dec 2012 #29

Sounds good to me Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #10

kick bigtree Dec 2012 #11

It's a 'band aid" approach, but it's not bad. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #13

this I can live with magical thyme Dec 2012 #14

This I could go for Liberalynn Dec 2012 #15

Sounds like a damn good idea to me. Autumn Dec 2012 #16

Repubs are rushing to the Greyhound station... kentuck Dec 2012 #17

well that plan favors the rich hfojvt Dec 2012 #18

The plan allows the tax cuts for the rich to expire. ProSense Dec 2012 #19

I suppose the plan woud be to pass with mostly Democratic votes? kentuck Dec 2012 #20

Possibly, but ProSense Dec 2012 #21

I don't see it passing the Republican House. kentuck Dec 2012 #22

Tea Party will own the ultimate destruction of the Republican Party as we know it. Panasonic Dec 2012 #36

no, actually it keeps many of those tax cuts for the rich hfojvt Dec 2012 #26

Please cut the nonsense. ProSense Dec 2012 #30

I'd like to have Obama cut the nonsense hfojvt Dec 2012 #39

You can ProSense Dec 2012 #41

the tax brackets do NOT apply to everyone hfojvt Dec 2012 #45

Don't be absurd! n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #52

Those numbers are OUTRAGEOUS. woo me with science Dec 2012 #34

I've been posting those numbers like a broken record now hfojvt Dec 2012 #40

Everything we get now favors the rich. It's a given now. woo me with science Dec 2012 #25

"We won the election by a landslide" ProSense Dec 2012 #31

No. woo me with science Dec 2012 #32

Your graph doesn't make your point. ProSense Dec 2012 #35

Bullshit, Prosense. woo me with science Dec 2012 #37

Bullshit, woo me with science ProSense Dec 2012 #38

aha, so you admit "nothing" is an alternative hfojvt Dec 2012 #42

Admit? ProSense Dec 2012 #44

but going in the wrong direction is bad hfojvt Dec 2012 #47

Progress isn't the "wrong direction" ProSense Dec 2012 #50

It's like arguing in a funhouse, isn't it. nt woo me with science Dec 2012 #53

P is for propaganda. n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #54

I wish that graph would include the baseline of "going over the clifff" hfojvt Dec 2012 #43

Actually, it's a ProSense Dec 2012 #46

I didn't know that the health care law hfojvt Dec 2012 #49

Regardless! ProSense Dec 2012 #51

It's stunning that they get away with this, and claim to represent us. woo me with science Dec 2012 #55

Yeah, This One AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #28

K & R Scurrilous Dec 2012 #33

Sounds tentatively encouraging. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #48

never seen government so dysfunctional in the good ol usa spanone Dec 2012 #56