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hunter

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7. I was completely loony-tunes as a young man.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 03:33 AM
Aug 2025

I quit high school, tested into college, was "asked" to take time outs from college twice, punched my dad in the face and ended up homeless until I found shelter in the garden shed of a PTSD Vietnam War Veteran, was in an abusive relationship which I quit by jumping out of her moving car, drove all over California as an anti-nuclear activist, and had quite a few jobs involving either heavy manual labor or lab work.

I don't know what personality traits I had that convinced people to look after me. At times even the police looked after me when I was at my worst.

Part of it was, yes, I was a white guy, but I think another part was that I was always putting myself out there even in times I just wanted to be invisible, maybe especially those times. I didn't have any patience sitting at home, especially not my parents' home which was always a crowded place of tremendous chaos.

Government programs work, those that get young people out of the house, these lost young men especially. The State of California and a few Federal grants paid for most of my college, I paid for housing and various student fees. That got me out of the house.

My kids went off to college. But that's not for everyone. My dad and my father-in-law volunteered for military service hoping that volunteering would give them some choices where they ended up rather than waiting to be drafted. My dad was a "Radar O'Reilly" Army medical clerk, my father-in-law was a Navy Corpsman assigned to the Marines. It was just dumb luck they didn't end up on the battlefields of Korea. My dad and my father-in-law both went to college afterwards, much of that paid for by the government. My children did not get that kind of government support.

If my kids hadn't gone off to college, and hadn't been itching to get away from home regardless, I don't know what I would have recommended. "Get a job, kid!" ain't enough, especially when jobs are scarce.

Our society could be far more aggressive with programs like the Civilian Conservation Corps of the 'thirties, only echoes of which remain today, such as the California Conservation Corps or similar programs in other states.

https://ccc.ca.gov/

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Young Men Face a Crisis [View all] applegrove Aug 2025 OP
1+ Norrrm Aug 2025 #1
For over a generation females attending two or four years schools exceeded men...the hidden stem economy was lost t JT45242 Aug 2025 #2
Yes. Trans kids have it the worst but the solution applegrove Aug 2025 #4
I concur with your comment re: sports being prioritized Raven123 Aug 2025 #8
I'm sure I'll take flak, but I will say basically all the young men I know spend 8+ hours a day playing video games. meadowlander Aug 2025 #9
Your post sums up a lot of my thoughts Johnny2X2X Aug 2025 #17
Mostly correct, but not #1 RandomNumbers Aug 2025 #18
I read the NYTimes article. Solly Mack Aug 2025 #3
yup Skittles Aug 2025 #11
It's a broken culture. usonian Aug 2025 #5
Blame it on the Stones MrWowWow Aug 2025 #6
I was completely loony-tunes as a young man. hunter Aug 2025 #7
In Japan NEETs: Not in Education, Employment or Training. Hikikomori is the extreme type. betsuni Aug 2025 #10
This issue is not limited by race or nationality Renew Deal Aug 2025 #12
They have plenty of opportunity to become respectable men, but actively choose not to. Incels figured out how to... Lancero Aug 2025 #13
They aren't rushing to the newly available farm and construction jobs? tanyev Aug 2025 #14
One solution for a lonely individual young male is screamingly obvious. JanMichael Aug 2025 #15
"Don't be a creep" has made the world a happier place throughout human history. hunter Aug 2025 #19
I wasn't suggesting university was for everyone. JanMichael Aug 2025 #20
A crisis, eh? MineralMan Aug 2025 #16
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