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littlemissmartypants

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41. This might help explain the seriousness of their insanity...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 04:38 PM
Aug 2025

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Taylor, who specializes in Protestant studies as senior scholar at the Institute for Islamic, Christian, and Jewish Studies in Baltimore, Maryland, is a gifted narrator and an incisive analyst. The Violent Take It By Force: The Christian Movement That is Threatening Our Democracy, just released in October 2024, is as riveting and disquieting as the podcast. Disquieting because the movement he writes about appears closer to realizing what Ché Ahn spoke of four years ago, a triumph that would bring an end to the protection from religious coercion that the First Amendment is intended to provide. The Courage Tour that targeted nineteen counties in the seven swing states with spirit-filled revivals firing up the faithful for Donald Trump in the recent election campaign demonstrated the movement’s ongoing vitality.The New Apostolic Reformation
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Apostolic and prophetic governance forms one of the three legs of the ideological stool, as Taylor describes it, undergirding a mega-network that emerged in 1996 called the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Taylor writes that the NAR connected a large sector of independent, charismatic Christianity in what became a “potent network of Christian leaders” who “built the theology of Christian Trumpism and then inspired thousands of Christians to show up on January 6 to fight for Donald Trump.”2 Under the radar of most media analysts, including prominent evangelicals, NAR-connected charismatic leaders and their ideas have moved from the margins to the center of politicized right-wing evangelicalism. They have become “frontline captains in America’s culture wars.”32022 (screen capture).

Ché Ahn’s January 5, 2021, remarks also manifest the two other legs of the NAR stool—strategic-level spiritual warfare and the Seven Mountains Mandate. The NAR takes to another level the fairly commonplace notion of “prayer warriors” who do battle against evil in the spiritual realm on behalf of individuals. At the “strategic” level of spiritual warfare, apostles and prophets have authority to lead massive prayer campaigns against specific “territorial spirits”—commanders in the hierarchy of cosmic “principalities and powers” who are assigned to rule specific geo-political territories or institutions. “Jezebel” thus apparently names a specific, command-level demon holding sway over the U. S. government that was to be cast out by “Jehu,” representing “generals of intercession” leading believers in a targeted campaign of spiritual warfare. The Seven Mountains Mandate, bidding Christians to attain dominance over the major realms of human society, forms the ideological link between warfare in the invisible, cosmic realm and political conflict in the visible, earth-bound realm. Thus, success in the spiritual campaign means that on the ground, in Ahn’s words, Christians are going to “rule and reign through President Trump.”

But why Trump? And how could all of this be conceived of as “under the lordship of Jesus Christ.” In The Violent Take It By Force, Taylor tells the story of how NAR-connected leaders have exerted an outsized influence in bringing about the apparent incongruity of evangelical conservatives giving overwhelming and ardent support to a man whose unrepentant immorality, unapologetic self-aggrandizement, and unceasing lies seem to put him utterly at odds with the moral values they say they want implemented in public life. The narrative centers on former Fuller Seminary professor C. Peter Wagner (1930-2016), the architect of the NAR, and reads like a novel in relating how the lives of a vivid cast of characters intersected with Wagner and each other in the process of forming a movement that has made a vast impact.
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https://spectrummagazine.org/culture/books-film/from-revival-to-riot-a-review-of-matthew-d-taylors-the-violent-take-it-by-force/

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Creeping jeebus EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #1
I don't have dweller Aug 2025 #2
OK, I gotta remember to use "the Epsteinth time" ... nt eppur_se_muova Aug 2025 #89
This isn't FAKE??? bucolic_frolic Aug 2025 #3
Johnson Blue-Gill1972 Aug 2025 #4
Can't God just beam HIM up, and leave Ars Longa Aug 2025 #86
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #91
This can't be true. Baitball Blogger Aug 2025 #5
I'd like to suggest a title - "To Serve Man" hatrack Aug 2025 #7
I am waiting for the South Park treatment of the story jmbar2 Aug 2025 #12
WTF. Religious propaganda on DU. Why? brush Aug 2025 #6
The reason why is important jmbar2 Aug 2025 #11
The End Times? The Rapture? The Apocalypse? Seriously? This is DU not a hotbed of Bible thumpers. brush Aug 2025 #17
Understood jmbar2 Aug 2025 #18
Use the ignore option Wifes husband Aug 2025 #34
The purpose of this post isn't to promote this Diraven Aug 2025 #39
So we at DU promote it further? Makes no sense to me. brush Aug 2025 #53
I don't see it as promoting it Mossfern Aug 2025 #61
Cybercasting it here and releasing it into the either is promoting it. It belongs on winger sites not here. brush Aug 2025 #63
Would you be more accepting here Mossfern Aug 2025 #69
DU isn't 'promoting' it---- but putting a spotlight on the absurdity Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #76
This might help explain the seriousness of their insanity... littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #41
Thank you for posting this! jmbar2 Aug 2025 #55
My pleasure. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #78
While this may be informative - & forewarned is forearmed - I don't think I could stand to read an entire book about it. eppur_se_muova Aug 2025 #90
Unfortunatley the fucking bible thumping nuts are in our government. Autumn Aug 2025 #50
Understood, but why is this posted here? Why further release it into cyberspace? brush Aug 2025 #51
Because it's part of current events? Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #54
It's religious propaghanda on DU and IMO it belongs onwinger sites if anybody wants it. brush Aug 2025 #58
You can alert on it if you think it breaks DU rules. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #60
Nobody is 'promoting' it, for Christ's sake.... (so to speak) Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #77
Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the house. He's involved. Autumn Aug 2025 #64
Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #66
It's not promoting. It's called discussing a current event. That's what we adults do here. Autumn Aug 2025 #67
It's entirely legitimate to report on the activities of people who believe in that stuff, especially when Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #52
Posting it here just further promotes it. I'm going to alert on it. Don't want to see this crap here. Belongs on... brush Aug 2025 #56
You can always hide the thread. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #57
I defer to anyone with the patience to watch a 16 min clickbait video muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #16
My sloppy header - will correct jmbar2 Aug 2025 #22
The odd thing is that no one ever names the "prophet" who came up with this bollocks muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #70
Here's an article from CBS Nittersing Aug 2025 #30
It's exposure and criticism of the batshittery. nt Celerity Aug 2025 #24
Religious insanity. They should leave animal sacrifice out of their religion, and just sacrifice themselves. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 2025 #8
Yep. Leave the animals and the kids and the non consenting out of it. jeffreyi Aug 2025 #35
There is a group of rich old men that think Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #9
Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine Ping Tung Aug 2025 #10
Holy Cow Donkees Aug 2025 #13
Rimshot jmbar2 Aug 2025 #15
Mike Johnson and pals are batshit insane and evil. PufPuf23 Aug 2025 #14
Word has it that one of the heifers was seen in the company of Matt Gaetz, sooooo.... Girard442 Aug 2025 #19
So the red republicon heifers are on the Epstein list, too? BoRaGard Aug 2025 #29
this is the heart of krasnov's cult rampartd Aug 2025 #20
Full-fledged KOOK Blue Owl Aug 2025 #21
A lot of these so-called Christians are going to be very surprised by where they'll spend the afterlife. jls4561 Aug 2025 #23
This bunch of freaks have been working at bringing around the apocalypse on purpose for a long time. Clouds Passing Aug 2025 #25
Who in Israel is cooperating with this? tanyev Aug 2025 #26
Jews know that the backbone of Israel's support in the U.S. is the evangelical Christians and not American Jews LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #65
Yep, it's one of those things where both parties think they are manipulating tanyev Aug 2025 #72
Spot on. markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #81
Look up Mossfern Aug 2025 #75
This country is so completely and entirely fucked Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #27
Dominionism czarjak Aug 2025 #28
Woe unto you who seek the day of the Lord: how would it concern you? The day of the Lord will be struggle4progress Aug 2025 #31
I'd like to know when the apocalypse is scheduled Turbineguy Aug 2025 #32
Yeah, can we have all your stuff? jmbar2 Aug 2025 #33
These people are going to be surprised. Wifes husband Aug 2025 #36
It's Darbyism Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2025 #49
Thanks for posting - interesting. jmbar2 Aug 2025 #59
Yeah, I know. Wifes husband Aug 2025 #68
The planet is inhabited by more than a few malaise Aug 2025 #37
First, the golden calf!! usonian Aug 2025 #38
Wow - repubes on their knees to mammon man BoRaGard Aug 2025 #46
And this one is actually real markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #82
They're going to sacrifice Mike Johnson...? regnaD kciN Aug 2025 #40
To be fair Diraven Aug 2025 #42
The minds of MAGA "Christians" Mblaze Aug 2025 #43
Rapture? I Got Yer Rapture Right Here MAGA Mike! MrWowWow Aug 2025 #44
Best Episode Ever! MineralMan Aug 2025 #92
They are all freaks...mentally ill....nt Figarosmom Aug 2025 #45
Delusional Malevolence Is A Hell Of A Drug MayReasonRule Aug 2025 #47
christi-insanity Be Leave On Aug 2025 #48
It's all about the Apocalypse: Another disturbing reason behind the right wing's pro-Israel obsession LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #62
Save the cows. Sacrifice Johnson... Wounded Bear Aug 2025 #71
TRUMP is roughly equal to five red heifers.... or Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #73
Wouldn't actively ushering in "the apocalypse" or end times flvegan Aug 2025 #74
Make believe. Dangerous, infantile make believe. Sibelius Fan Aug 2025 #79
TY to those like LMSP who took the time to give a detailed reply to the disturbed. It is important to know... Hekate Aug 2025 #80
Thank you for a thoughtful discussion jmbar2 Aug 2025 #84
Thanks back atcha Hekate Aug 2025 #87
While I am hildegaard28 Aug 2025 #83
Public Service Announcement: markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #85
I figure someone would have to be B.See Aug 2025 #88
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