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paleotn

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51. He's correct about the idea of land for peace.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:28 AM
Aug 2025

But that's obvious. The Russkies have been flogging that 13th century idea for over a year. But framing that as some "grand conspiracy" with Trump is over the top and meant to give Parmas attention as much as anything. And attention gets him paid these days, so the wilder the conspiracy the better. Gins up chatter and helps with future TV gigs. That formula seems to work just as well on the left as the right. If done on the right, we call it scamming the rubes. The point being, not to disseminate information and analysis but to simply get people worked up. There's a monetary value to that.

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shithole and comrades are that stupid?........................ Lovie777 Aug 2025 #1
Yes, Just Jerome Aug 2025 #29
Well, it might have been intended to be a setup, but Zelensky won't be alone. Roughly, a half dozen Texin Aug 2025 #43
If trump Rebl2 Aug 2025 #52
Trump will sell out Ukraine in a heartbeat. Lonestarblue Aug 2025 #2
Putin most likely has the Epstein files gab13by13 Aug 2025 #4
This is the only true answer wolfie001 Aug 2025 #24
I think Anonymous was sold out by Snowden LuvLoogie Aug 2025 #30
I theorize Snowden was a white nationalist wolfie001 Aug 2025 #46
Trump... GiqueCee Aug 2025 #10
No surprise there. 2naSalit Aug 2025 #3
That sounds about right. Liberal In Texas Aug 2025 #5
Isn't that what he did last time Zelenskyy came to Washington? Biophilic Aug 2025 #6
Oval Office Ambush Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #32
Well, Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #7
Why is Zelenskyy going to Washington? 33taw Aug 2025 #8
Except a number of European leaders are coming with him Buckeyeblue Aug 2025 #9
Yes! A united front kkmarie Aug 2025 #12
How many European leaders is Trump going to allow in the meeting? Gimpyknee Aug 2025 #22
I'd love to see Macron punch that fat orange imbecile in the face wolfie001 Aug 2025 #26
Aren't they going to be on a zoom call? gab13by13 Aug 2025 #37
Yes he has back up coming. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #48
You're spreading conspiracy theories from convicted felon Lev Parnas? sop Aug 2025 #11
Huh? D_Master81 Aug 2025 #17
Ask Gab, he knows a Republican talking point whe he sees one. sop Aug 2025 #27
Exactly. That idea of land for peace has been "test ballooned" for some time. paleotn Aug 2025 #18
I admit to being slow, gab13by13 Aug 2025 #40
He's correct about the idea of land for peace. paleotn Aug 2025 #51
My post wasn't that long, gab13by13 Aug 2025 #39
Convicted felon, liar, Trump supporter, grifter and former Giuliani co-conspirator writes breathlessly: sop Aug 2025 #54
Exactly what land is being swapped? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2025 #13
What land is being swapped? Gimpyknee Aug 2025 #16
The land, Ukranian, will be swapped to Russia in return for peace. gab13by13 Aug 2025 #41
My understanding is that Putin wants... mwooldri Aug 2025 #34
Slightly worse than that - Putin wants *all* of Donetsk, despite never having taken it all so far muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #35
Great, another chance to be disgusted by Trump. Hillbilly, and Lil Marco. dem4decades Aug 2025 #14
Let's hope that JD will be too busy thinking about his next taxpayer funded vacation to be a boor newdeal2 Aug 2025 #20
May well be the plan, but it won't work. That argument convinces no one. paleotn Aug 2025 #15
The difference is that Krasnov will publicly support it, gab13by13 Aug 2025 #42
That's a given, right? Xavier Breath Aug 2025 #19
Well, he may try to do that but Zelensky and Europe wil stand firm. ananda Aug 2025 #21
It's as clear as air. nt Tommy Carcetti Aug 2025 #23
There you have it. GOP-Russian treachery. BoRaGard Aug 2025 #25
Yes. They're still colluding wolfie001 Aug 2025 #28
What was Zelenkyy's response when Parnas warned him? Kaleva Aug 2025 #31
I don't understand your post gab13by13 Aug 2025 #44
Parnas didn't express it as a hypothetical Kaleva Aug 2025 #50
Neighbor steals some property. Stop fighting. Give some to him. Festivito Aug 2025 #33
That was the first draft of the script Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #36
When was the last time we supplied arms to Ukraine? gab13by13 Aug 2025 #47
Multiple sources report shipments resumed on July 9/10 Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #49
Isn't a high official from Finland traveling with Zelenskyy? Baitball Blogger Aug 2025 #38
Pretty sure all the plans for the meeting mountain grammy Aug 2025 #45
Bringing Backup Deep State Witch Aug 2025 #53
Oh. Gee. MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #55
Of course. That's why Trump said "it's really on Zelensky" to reach a deal with Russia. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #56
I think he knows. n/t returnee Aug 2025 #57
He's not clever, Ukraine & Europe know this already. themaguffin Aug 2025 #58
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