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JoePhilly

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37. Which is why I asked if you were he.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:31 PM
Dec 2012

See, Fischer was well known for gambits that would allow him to gain positional and initiative advantages at the expense of material (aka, points). Such gambits include sacrificing all sorts of pieces before your opponent has "developed" their pieces.

For Fischer, he realized that the material deficit he faced could be mitigated while the opponent's pieces were still stuck on the back rank. He also knew that if he failed to win quickly, or to regain the material lost, he'd be in trouble.

So, his gambits often provided him a brief window in which his positional and initiative (ability to attack) could allow him to either checkmate the opponent or regain the material lost.

Now, the problem is that this approach is not one that dominates high level chess. The majority of high level chess players do not sacrifice pieces in the manner that Fischer did. Fischer is in fact one of the few chessmasters who have been able to dominate the game using that approach.

In the OP, you suggest that sacrificing pawns in a significant part of what chess is. You are wrong.

Using that approach will generally cause you to lose ... unless of course, YOU are Bobby Fischer.

Which I doubt since he died a few years back.

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Chess? [View all] bvar22 Dec 2012 OP
Is that an image of the evil Obama? ProSense Dec 2012 #1
Well, you know... you just can't trust "their kind" n/t Scootaloo Dec 2012 #4
No. That wasn't posted as an image of our President. bvar22 Dec 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author cliffordu Dec 2012 #20
Checkers slackmaster Dec 2012 #2
CHECKMATE leftstreet Dec 2012 #3
K&R forestpath Dec 2012 #5
... Tx4obama Dec 2012 #6
An oldie, but a goodie. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #7
As a chess player, I NEVER sacrifice pawns..... lastlib Dec 2012 #8
You say you play Chess, bvar22 Dec 2012 #10
can't say I haven't made mistakes and lost a few, but never DELIBERATELY just give one away.... lastlib Dec 2012 #15
"just giving one away" is NOT a "Sacrifice", bvar22 Dec 2012 #22
You clearly have no idea how chess is actually played. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #11
Gish Gallop Nonsense. bvar22 Dec 2012 #12
The fact that you do not (can not) understand chess, does not make it a "Gish Gallop" event. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #13
Hey, Joe Philly.... bvar22 Dec 2012 #17
Of course, I'd exchange the pawn for the win, but that's not a true "sacrifice." lastlib Dec 2012 #16
I'd love to play a game of chess with you. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #18
okay I just won a game of chess against level 8 on the computer hfojvt Dec 2012 #32
So what you just explained is a computer program that appears to make decisions JoePhilly Dec 2012 #34
That is close enough for the OP to be a valid statement. bvar22 Dec 2012 #19
Hey guy? Your large bold type makes me instantly skip over everything you post. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #28
I really don't care what you "skip over". bvar22 Dec 2012 #29
The substance of your post, such as it was, was lost in your screaming. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #30
When dealing with the impaired, bvar22 Dec 2012 #33
lol. Bobby Fischer is that you???? JoePhilly Dec 2012 #35
Bobby Fischer? bvar22 Dec 2012 #36
Which is why I asked if you were he. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #37
No. You ARE distorting what I said in my OP. bvar22 Dec 2012 #38
Did you really say that????? 99Forever Dec 2012 #40
No sarcasm was needed. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #41
Oh please. 99Forever Dec 2012 #43
Perhaps you should learn the game DevonRex Dec 2012 #14
Can you explain why the Pawns are in the front rank and not the Royalty bahrbearian Dec 2012 #23
Because Obama hates them. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #42
Chess!! cliffordu Dec 2012 #21
That's not the aspect being referred to when people use the expression treestar Dec 2012 #24
I wonder if in 2014 bahrbearian Dec 2012 #25
You and I are not in the big club pokerfan Dec 2012 #26
Perhaps an even larger font would be more convincing? Robb Dec 2012 #27
These politician are not playing games. Autumn Dec 2012 #31
That's all that needed to be said, but I'm sure the multidimensional brainfucking will continue. adirondacker Dec 2012 #39
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