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Coventina

(29,091 posts)
53. I don't know. I don't know if there is any way to know that.
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 11:35 PM
Aug 2025

There is no question that they were highly influenced by both Gothard and Dobson, as they discussed both their works and ideas extensively with each other, with us kids, and with their limited circle of friends.

If nothing else, those men, and Dobson in particular, provided an excuse to be physically abusive in the name of religion.

I think I'm justified in hating Dobson for that.

I'm not giving my parents a blanket excuse, they should have known it was wrong anyway.

But, my dad (especially) is a big believer in trusting spiritual authority.

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... SheltieLover Aug 2025 #1
I'm sorry. underpants Aug 2025 #2
Dobson, along with Falwell, changed this nation to what it is today. walkingman Aug 2025 #3
Please add pat robertson to your list UpInArms Aug 2025 #6
Jim and Tammy Baker BidenRocks Aug 2025 #31
hem. i was just thinking that . that gold plated air conditioned dog house . hem AllaN01Bear Aug 2025 #33
Tammy Faye Bakker made a positive difference TommyT139 Aug 2025 #43
We used to get high and watch the PTL Club, just for the chuckles. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2025 #51
"Pass the loot" LastDemocratInSC Aug 2025 #54
OMG! I had forgotten about that meme. llmart Aug 2025 #66
My conservative Aunt used to think Tammy looked like a hooker. mdbl Aug 2025 #87
I used to have to be up early MuseRider Aug 2025 #89
Sorry to read. About the worst I can say about my Dad, is he played a lot of 30's/50's music OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2025 #100
OMG! GarColga Aug 2025 #102
They had no problems spreading BS about anyone who they perceived were their spiritual enemies. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2025 #103
There are a few Catholic bishops to add to the list. yourout Aug 2025 #37
2 of my teachers (not nuns) at Catholic School BlueKota Aug 2025 #42
That happened to a kid in my husband's class Freddie Aug 2025 #83
You definitely made the right call about BlueKota Aug 2025 #95
Unforgivable. (nt) Paladin Aug 2025 #4
Oh, Coventina, I am so sorry for what you endured Tanuki Aug 2025 #5
spanking is a form et tu Aug 2025 #67
Im sorry that happened to you raccoon Aug 2025 #7
(-( elleng Aug 2025 #8
Sick fucks preaching child abuse. MLAA Aug 2025 #9
Exactly Demovictory9 Aug 2025 #18
"Spare the rod and spoil the child" Wifes husband Aug 2025 #10
For some reason that phrase has been completely screwed up. OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #61
Good old days my ass Wifes husband Aug 2025 #68
I never knew that about "spare the rod" BlueSpot Aug 2025 #96
... Delphinus Aug 2025 #11
Ah yes, Fungus on the Family.. Permanut Aug 2025 #12
Bundy played him perfectly! NN Grins Aug 2025 #76
It must've been awful. I'm so sorry. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #13
My parents were like yours, never ever did they hit us. I was well behaved because Raine Aug 2025 #27
My daddy never laid a hand on me. He just said my name and that's all it took. sprinkleeninow Aug 2025 #55
I'm sorry MustLoveBeagles Aug 2025 #14
I am so sorry to hear this. The little child that you were, never deserved this. Swede Aug 2025 #15
How horrific. So sorry that happened to you. electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #16
He is a lot of the cause that they still use corporal punishment in schools. Trueblue Texan Aug 2025 #17
He will. I'm sorry. LoisB Aug 2025 #19
He also suggested that fathers should phylny Aug 2025 #20
There's a newly-built building in my town with a sign that says it's a Focus on the Family in2herbs Aug 2025 #21
Coventina .............. Upthevibe Aug 2025 #22
How many daycare workers and teachers did he ruin as well? Rot in hell James 🔥 Clouds Passing Aug 2025 #23
I hope there is a special place in hell for those who preach violence Grim Chieftain Aug 2025 #24
I am so sorry.you went through that. bronxiteforever Aug 2025 #25
Ugh. I apologize on behalf of my state for him. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #26
I am so sorry, Coventina Diamond_Dog Aug 2025 #28
none of that but my grandma listened to him + he always made me hate him. pansypoo53219 Aug 2025 #29
Guys like him pwb Aug 2025 #30
Amazing how much grief a complete stranger can cause. ((hugs)). Dobson was allegorical oracle Aug 2025 #32
Did anyone else hear that? Tree Lady Aug 2025 #64
Yep, I agree MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #81
I'm very sorry for your trauma dlk Aug 2025 #34
Belt Wifes husband Aug 2025 #48
My grandfather's belt of choice was a razor strap dlk Aug 2025 #79
Taught me to solve problems with violence. Ligyron Aug 2025 #88
I got a belt now and then. My parents were fairly restrained with it. Then came groundings. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #80
They are all such sadists. LoisB Aug 2025 #35
They seem to enjoy the suffering of others dlk Aug 2025 #97
Yes. LoisB Aug 2025 #99
Someone gave me one of his books when I was in high school... RockRaven Aug 2025 #36
I am so sorry. You shouldn't have had to endure that. BlueKota Aug 2025 #38
I never felt fear. Just contempt. Wifes husband Aug 2025 #69
My daughter said "No one mourns the wicked!" biophile Aug 2025 #39
Big Hug proud patriot Aug 2025 #40
My parents bought into the Dobson crap. TomSlick Aug 2025 #41
My dad was a bully, last time he tried to lay a hand on me Wifes husband Aug 2025 #50
How did that turn out? gay texan Aug 2025 #74
I am proud to say he did not get what he deserved. Wifes husband Aug 2025 #91
But i'd say he got the message n/t gay texan Aug 2025 #93
My husband was a product of that bullshit, mzmolly Aug 2025 #44
I am so sorry for you, I too was abused. The scars are gone. But being abused never, ever leaves. You are loved buy us. debm55 Aug 2025 #45
Kids getting beaten by parents predates Dobson Kaleva Aug 2025 #46
I am well aware, but my parents specifically read his books and Coventina Aug 2025 #47
Do you think your life would have been any different had your parents not followed Dobson? Kaleva Aug 2025 #49
I don't know. I don't know if there is any way to know that. Coventina Aug 2025 #53
He was a complete piece of shit. Mike Niendorff Aug 2025 #52
Those fuckers beat pets too Blue Owl Aug 2025 #56
OMG MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #82
I can only VanMilder Aug 2025 #57
I'm so sorry LeftInTX Aug 2025 #58
Dobson also beat the shit out of a little dog to show him who was boss. yellowcanine Aug 2025 #59
The man was a monster OnionPatch Aug 2025 #60
I am so sorry cally Aug 2025 #62
I am just going to wish for you that someday those memories go away rurallib Aug 2025 #63
I'm very sorry to learn that. My wife's family, at least the fundies therein, kept telling us the at we... NNadir Aug 2025 #65
I'm sorry you had to go through that. barbtries Aug 2025 #70
My Talibangelical parents beat us all of the time. OMGWTF Aug 2025 #71
He was a horrible human being. MineralMan Aug 2025 #72
I'm sorry you had to experience this Picaro Aug 2025 #73
My parents made me read one of his books Diraven Aug 2025 #75
My parents didn't push religion on their kids LogDog75 Aug 2025 #77
Somewhere I have it bookmarked... Grins Aug 2025 #78
You are not alone MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #84
Let me know where he will be burried. mercuryblues Aug 2025 #85
Dobson is a pig kevinore Aug 2025 #86
I served an 8 year sentence at a Catholic school. EndlessMaze Aug 2025 #90
Count me with those who are so sorry you had to endure this. soldierant Aug 2025 #92
So many others doing the same "model." I am sorry for your experience and am appalled it continues. nt Evolve Dammit Aug 2025 #94
Don't know anything about Dobson TnDem Aug 2025 #98
If there is a heaven and a hell...... OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2025 #101
We have Christians in America who teach how to beat babies. Norrrm Aug 2025 #104
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