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k0rs

(146 posts)
24. I've actually had...
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 01:24 PM
Aug 2025

...formal training in entering confined spaces and confined space rescue, or unfortunately what is more often retrieval (as opposed to rescue).

This isn't a small family farm, it's a huge industrial operation. I don't know what policy and requirements they have in place, but they should have a comprehensive safety plan. Perhaps they had a viable plan and this is a case of worker non-compliance. It will come out in the investigation.

What should have been in place, BEFORE the accident was:

1. A formal process to identify confined spaces. Identified spaces are then clearly marked as such. Confined spaces may not be particularly obvious. They may even not have a roof. Heavy toxic gases can collect in such apparently open spots.

2. Worker training to inform the worker of proper procedures for entering these spaces. In this case probably in Spanish as well as English, emphasizing never to follow a collapsed worker into a confined space without proper preparation. "You can't hold your breath." It doesn't work. H2S (Hydrogen Sulfide) can overcome an individual with amazing speed.

3. Proper safety gear to allow entry without personal hazard. This includes breathing equipment, gas analyzers and retrieval equipment. Yeah, it's a hassle to set up, but it's also a hassle for your family to arrange a funeral. A handheld gas analyzer isn't particularly expensive (especially compared to the alternative) and alerts to dangerous gases within seconds.

My employer was in a deep red area and we had many ultra-conservative managers and employees. Yet they were absolutely anal about OSHA compliance and safety training, to their everlasting credit. I spent days rigged with breathing apparatus and retrieval equipment inside confined spaces littered with pipes, tools and other hazards to make training more difficult. It's astonishingly hard to remove a 150lb test dummy from a cluttered, claustrophobic confined space. "Dead weight" takes on a whole new meaning. Imagine how difficult it is to remove a real human without doing further damage his/her body, or your own.

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Hydrogen sulfide is dangerous as hell TnDem Aug 2025 #1
Odd how little mention its danger gets. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #2
What would you do to ensure safety? RandomNumbers Aug 2025 #8
thanks. finger pointing (particularly without anything to back it up) stopdiggin Aug 2025 #9
As a fellow ignoramus, would that Trump's OSHA listened more to you. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #13
Too many variables to know TnDem Aug 2025 #16
Don't go in without BidenRocks Aug 2025 #20
It was probably on local news. There are several articles online about it. RandomNumbers Aug 2025 #3
It was. That was where I read it. niyad Aug 2025 #5
It was all over the local news in Denver. It also made National news as well. See link below. generalbetrayus Aug 2025 #23
I read about it that day in local news, which surprised me, since niyad Aug 2025 #4
Confined Space Incident ProfessorGAC Aug 2025 #6
thanks. for the more knowledgeable commentary. stopdiggin Aug 2025 #11
Not Been My Experience ProfessorGAC Aug 2025 #19
you are probably 100% about 'culture' stopdiggin Aug 2025 #21
Different Backgrounds, I Guess ProfessorGAC Aug 2025 #33
Blaming the workers Cirsium Aug 2025 #27
here you had 5 workers who (according to this source) stopdiggin Aug 2025 #31
Horrific malaise Aug 2025 #7
it says agricultural worker .. stopdiggin Aug 2025 #12
Richest times in human history mean Hard Times for the many. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #14
Farm accidents are common Melon Aug 2025 #10
Six deaths on one farm should be national news. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #17
It is national news. Melon Aug 2025 #34
I read news report on DU a couple of days ago, so international news, kinda. But surprised it doesn't have bigger impact Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #39
I've actually had... k0rs Aug 2025 #24
thank you! another really good, and informed, post. - -(nt)- stopdiggin Aug 2025 #35
In unrelated news, Trump Administration destroys OSHA and attacks unions that push for safer workplaces. Midnight Writer Aug 2025 #15
Heard the other day that slavery wasn't that bad, either. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #18
Hydrogen Sulfide struggle4progress Aug 2025 #22
Heartbreaking. Happens fast, too. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #44
The six Clouds Passing Aug 2025 #25
People pretending to be ice agents, Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #26
your post has virtually nothing to do with the 6 dead in Colorado. stopdiggin Aug 2025 #36
Understood. Few immigrants or asylum seekers cause harm. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #43
Does this mean we don't have an OSHA any more? ananda Aug 2025 #28
Not necessarily, k0rs Aug 2025 #37
Have you tried unplugging your tv and plugging it back in? TheProle Aug 2025 #29
Thanks! Reminds me of Benjamin Franklin... Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #41
The biggest problem with confined space accidents is human nature jmowreader Aug 2025 #30
Did not know about the dangers from big oil fields. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #42
If only the U.S. had a part of government to protect the workers from occupational safety hazards LiberalArkie Aug 2025 #32
Yes.. k0rs Aug 2025 #38
We just had a plant meeting at work about this incident NickB79 Aug 2025 #40
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