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qazplm135

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28. The real problem
Sun Aug 24, 2025, 07:31 PM
Aug 2025

Is the fundamental disconnect between Trump voters and Biden/Harris voters. It's really vast and I don't think it's bridgeable.

They care little a about laws or rights or procedure, they just want straight white Christian men back on top, however that happens.

It's not really even a liberal v conservative anymore.

The side problem is that the Democratic Party is truly becoming a very loose coalition where parts of the coalition really don't like other parts of the coalition. And vice versa. That complicates our ability to fight and unite.

The final problem is the third of the country who simply refuse to participate in politics. They won't vote. They won't protest. They just remove themselves from everything. It's part of why we are locked into this yo yo between Dem and Rep for what seems like quite a long time now. At least since Clinton.

I don't know what fixes it. Yeah we could win in 26 and 28 but it's almost guaranteed we loose at least somewhere in 30.

Quite frankly we need a Barack/Bill type of charismatic leader to drag some of the folks out of their stupor into the voting booth.

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We aren't ever going "back to normal" [View all] struggle4progress Aug 2025 OP
That was an excellent analysis Uncle Joe Aug 2025 #1
Evolution has no direction. Ping Tung Aug 2025 #2
Great Post! I would like to add this Pete Buttegieg post from a few weeks back, Ars Longa Aug 2025 #3
+ struggle4progress Aug 2025 #5
... littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Aug 2025 #17
Being 70, I've seen things go back and forth. kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2025 #4
No one has come close to 45. None tried to destroy democracy like this bastard. rickyhall Aug 2025 #6
You've forgotten Adolf Hitler? synni Aug 2025 #8
I think you're right. BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #9
I want to believe that angrychair Aug 2025 #10
You're exactly right. This real world is very different from what they're discussing. ancianita Aug 2025 #15
Hitler was stopped by foreign armies. Feel Good Inc Aug 2025 #11
There is no America Cosmocat Aug 2025 #20
It took a World War to stop Hitler and Japan. Including 2 nukes dropped at the end. Celerity Aug 2025 #26
They've just... littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #13
Donald Trump is doing to America what Osama Bin Laden only said he would do. Initech Aug 2025 #18
Eisenhower was highly popular Polybius Aug 2025 #21
No we will never go back to "normal." We will never again trust conservatives to abide by accepted norms, ethical Martin68 Aug 2025 #7
❤️ littlemissmartypants Aug 2025 #14
Smart lady. No, we're not going back Warpy Aug 2025 #16
How about going back to "normal democracy" and normal rule of law? Would that be okay? ancianita Aug 2025 #19
That's likely to look a bit different, too Warpy Aug 2025 #24
Yes. Absolutely different. A normal democracy enables that to happen, and it's fervently to be wished. ancianita Aug 2025 #25
K&R ReRe Aug 2025 #22
Only climate change deniers would think that's possible Kaleva Aug 2025 #23
And, if I may now add, AI systemic threat deniers. Celerity Aug 2025 #27
The real problem qazplm135 Aug 2025 #28
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