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Abstractartist

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2. Ok so I'll say it...

Reply to multigraincracker (Original post)

Mon Aug 25, 2025, 09:25 AM

Aug 2025

Ok, I’ll take the rap and say it…. Sometimes it may not be the correct thing for females to participate in male sport activities.

This is just my opinion stated for safety reasons only, and has ZERO to do with women rights, free speech and expression. It also does not reflect the extreme views of the right on trans and LGBQT rights and freedoms.

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High School girl wrestler nearly lost her life. [View all] multigraincracker Aug 2025 OP

Notable points: Heidi Aug 2025 #1

And not just civilly FFS JMCKUSICK Aug 2025 #32

I assume the school district and its employees are insured Heidi Aug 2025 #39

Ok so I'll say it... Abstractartist Aug 2025 #2

It's not a gender issue. The coach made her practice outside her weight class, which exist for safety reasons. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #5

As a father of a former college wrestler, you don't always get to train in your weight class. Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2025 #23

Just based on weight class alone, I agree ToxMarz Aug 2025 #37

Furthermore, under Title IX, the school district has a legal obligation Heidi Aug 2025 #43

True, but high school leagues generally have more restrictive rules around practice and matchups for precisely this WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #38

She was only 94 lbs, according to a second article lostnfound Aug 2025 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author lostnfound Aug 2025 #6

She apparently *had* been safe Heidi Aug 2025 #7

You can train even responsibly outside of your weight class EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #14

I agree. Heidi Aug 2025 #15

+1000 CrispyQ Aug 2025 #17

She would have been fine in her own weight class Johnny2X2X Aug 2025 #10

I agree totally. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #11

I don't think this story's context provides you the hill you want to stand on. Torchlight Aug 2025 #13

This female child was almost killed. That is the only context I need to make a gd decision. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #16

I doubt anyone on this board is fine with "Killing and raping females" Torchlight Aug 2025 #20

We can rail against both in parallel. Heidi Aug 2025 #24

"Females" is not a noun, it's an adjective. obamanut2012 Aug 2025 #19

"Female" has been used both as a noun and adjective since the 14th century Tanuki Aug 2025 #27

True, but it feels dehumanizing because Ilsa Aug 2025 #44

Yup, because it is obamanut2012 Aug 2025 #53

Really? We can't use the word female anymore? Doodley Aug 2025 #56

It rankles as a noun. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #64

Until about the 1980s, it was "ladies", women was like a dirty word Demovictory9 Aug 2025 #55

You don't use it as a noun with humans -- it is a huge misogynist thing done by incels and others obamanut2012 Aug 2025 #52

Please explain when we should use woman or girl? For example, if a female looks 16, should we say woman or girl? Doodley Aug 2025 #58

OMG you know exactly what I mean -- you just did what you did on purpose obamanut2012 Aug 2025 #61

With all due respect, are you not able to answer the question? Doodley Aug 2025 #63

You could say person. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #65

How about young woman? nt. druidity33 Aug 2025 #71

That sounds good to me, but there's always somebody who will object. Call sixteen year-olds a girl and Doodley Aug 2025 #72

How was it condescending to point out that the word Tanuki Aug 2025 #66

I'm not a sexist but... AStern Aug 2025 #40

Thank you!!! Heidi Aug 2025 #46

This wasn't normal participation in a sport Random Boomer Aug 2025 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Jacson6 Aug 2025 #3

Made me sick too Bettie Aug 2025 #4

If that boy was already found to have unnecessarily hurt other wrestlers haele Aug 2025 #8

The coach was at fault here. He put a person much smaller with a very much larger person. Srkdqltr Aug 2025 #9

Sounds like they set her up to punish her LostOne4Ever Aug 2025 #12

Bigots already are. Iggo Aug 2025 #22

This is a hate crime. Parents should sue. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2025 #18

Most of the article is based on that lawsuit and that lawyer's statements. nt sl8 Aug 2025 #30

Surely you noticed the number of "if true" comments in this thread. Heidi Aug 2025 #48

He was teaching her a lesson. Iggo Aug 2025 #21

Hate Rebl2 Aug 2025 #25

I hate these also. milestogo Aug 2025 #28

Why was she outside her weight class in the first place?! uponit7771 Aug 2025 #26

Did you read the article? The coach paired her with a teammate three weight classes heavier. Heidi Aug 2025 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Aug 2025 #68

This is on the coach. cab67 Aug 2025 #31

The reason why there are weight classes Johonny Aug 2025 #33

Additional info that cuts to the heart of this case: Heidi Aug 2025 #34

Ah, so they wanted to prove a point uponit7771 Aug 2025 #69

First of all, a person with a history of injuring other people should not be allowed on the wrestling team. Wiz Imp Aug 2025 #35

Sounds like the adults involved were sending a message to this female athlete. Heidi Aug 2025 #41

First thing I though of. The coach doesn't want to waste his time with girls, so he Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #60

In college, too. You have to go to the mat with the opponent. Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2025 #51

Me Too Maninacan Aug 2025 #36

I hate that that happened to you. Heidi Aug 2025 #42

I've always been in favor of removing most if not multigraincracker Aug 2025 #47

It's *not* just your opinion. Heidi Aug 2025 #49

I'm not a sports person at all, but Bettie Aug 2025 #57

Good argument for keeping it this way. multigraincracker Aug 2025 #62

I have no faith in the ability or Bettie Aug 2025 #70

I agree with you. hunter Aug 2025 #67

Why was the boy permitted to continue on the team if Jose Garcia Aug 2025 #50

Schools, especially in communities with nothing else to have pride in, go through hell and high water... Lancero Aug 2025 #54