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104. Only, Sir, If You Are Going To Claim You Are Not a Human Being

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:09 AM

Dec 2012

If you are going to announce you are from Mars, or proclaim yourself abnormal, utterly unlike ordinary folks in your make-up and mentality, then perhaps you might have a point. Otherwise, no, it is far from foolish to understand you as anyone with some experience of men and the world would understand anyone else behaving as you say you do, and in fact, what would be foolish would be to take your protestations you are different from the general run as an accurate assessment.

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Dear NRA apologists: "It will never happen" is not a valid argument against gun control. [View all] DanTex Dec 2012 OP

Recommend. morningfog Dec 2012 #1

I don't like the word ban neither do any of the 80 million gun owners in America former-republican Dec 2012 #2

Mendacious and wild-eyed: That's what the NY Times calls the NRA. byeya Dec 2012 #3

But, again, that is an argument about politics and feasibility. DanTex Dec 2012 #5

I'm open to dialog about regulating firearms as is most gun owners on this site. former-republican Dec 2012 #8

Of course you can have a discussion. You just choose not to. DanTex Dec 2012 #13

I'm having one right now and have made several posts in threads about the NFA former-republican Dec 2012 #14

Heller. sir pball Dec 2012 #85

I am not a gun grabber and I support a ban on assault rifles and hand guns Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #6

So you want any new person of legal age with no mental illness , criminal or felony conviction former-republican Dec 2012 #9

Yes it is, we don't need any more George Zimmermans Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #12

By starting your argument with George Zimmerman and former-republican Dec 2012 #15

And You Have No Credibility At All, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2012 #16

So then you want to discuss mental illness not firearms former-republican Dec 2012 #20

The car was not designed to kill but the gun was Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #22

He was trying to blame the firearm arm for suicides former-republican Dec 2012 #29

It is true that people are far more likely to commit suicide if they own a gun Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #32

And To Put It Even Colder, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2012 #33

What percentage of those who own a firearm for self defense do you feel have ... spin Dec 2012 #48

Whether A Fear is Rational, Sir, Is a Proper Field For Inquiry The Magistrate Dec 2012 #51

I would rather think ..... oldhippie Dec 2012 #58

The Possibility, Sir, I Will Find A Stack Of Hundred Dollar Bills On the Sidewalk Is Not Zero The Magistrate Dec 2012 #90

Yes it might be true that a person who owns and carries a deadly weapon ... spin Dec 2012 #64

Therefore you must believe that my having fire alarms and fire extinguishers in my home ... spin Dec 2012 #89

By The Standards Employed There, Sir, Me And Mine Have Done Our Violent Crime Exposure The Magistrate Dec 2012 #92

If my situational awareness fails me and I find myself confronted by a street thug ... spin Dec 2012 #100

Already Replied To In #99 Below, Sir.... The Magistrate Dec 2012 #102

People who are paranoid are more likely to have a mental illness than people who are not paranoid Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #52

Let me ask you a simple question. ... spin Dec 2012 #74

In all liklihood you will never need to use your weapon. Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #94

If you noticed I said that I have no reason to expect that I ever will have to use my weapon ... spin Dec 2012 #96

This, Sir, Is Truly, Uproariously, Funny The Magistrate Dec 2012 #99

Of course for you to make such a judgment without knowing me or my experiences ... spin Dec 2012 #103

Only, Sir, If You Are Going To Claim You Are Not a Human Being The Magistrate Dec 2012 #104

No. I don't come from Mars. ... spin Dec 2012 #105

Stick To The Flat Fact, Sir: Squid's Ink Will Not Do The Magistrate Dec 2012 #23

your fact is incorrect former-republican Dec 2012 #27

Denying Facts, Sir, Will Not Help You Either, Though It Will Amuse the Audience Watching You Wriggle The Magistrate Dec 2012 #28

You sir are incorrect again former-republican Dec 2012 #37

Possession Of A Fire-Arm Increases The Danger Its Owner is Exposed To: Flat Fact, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2012 #38

I thought you would stop there, thank you former-republican Dec 2012 #40

You Cannot Refute It, Sir: There Is Nowhere Else To Go The Magistrate Dec 2012 #42

This is absolutely correct. There have been many studies about this. DanTex Dec 2012 #41

Part Of His Problem, Sir, Is Not Understanding Risk 'In the Round' The Magistrate Dec 2012 #46

Any one of those gun owners is at risk. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #62

Just ones that say that guns are awesome neverforget Dec 2012 #77

A gun did kill Trayvon Martin, but that gun did not protect George Zimmerman Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #18

Not all "gun nuts" support Zimmerman. ... spin Dec 2012 #54

Not all gun nuts, but far too many of them Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #59

I feel you are basing your opinion on post you read on some pro-gun forums. ... spin Dec 2012 #67

Sure, I have read lots of praise for Zimmerman on the pro-gun boards Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #69

You may be right ... spin Dec 2012 #71

We wouldn't be the first country to do this Major Nikon Dec 2012 #55

Do you seriously think... 99Forever Dec 2012 #7

+1 ellisonz Dec 2012 #21

When you extend the phrase "gun nuts" to anyone who owns guns hack89 Dec 2012 #44

Pungently ironic, as well. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #57

Did you realize the post that was a response to refered to "gun grabber nut cases"? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #60

Yeppers... 99Forever Dec 2012 #84

"Insulting and pissing off people is not the best way to get support for your ideas." 99Forever Dec 2012 #79

Better wait until they pass actual legislation before doing your happy dance. hack89 Dec 2012 #80

Whatever you say, buddy. 99Forever Dec 2012 #82

You realize the AWB will not be retroactive? hack89 Dec 2012 #83

You writing the legislation, are you? 99Forever Dec 2012 #86

No - Senator Feinstein is. I will take her at her word. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #95

So, one Senator has the ... 99Forever Dec 2012 #98

She has already said she is introducing the AWB bill hack89 Dec 2012 #101

Aren't you tired? What is so frightening about the word "ban"? jmg257 Dec 2012 #10

Regulating semi-automatic weapons the same way we do automatic weapons RomneyLies Dec 2012 #11

Ban the guns. Ban, ban, ban, ban. And not the roll-on. nt valerief Dec 2012 #30

"gun grabber nut cases " etherealtruth Dec 2012 #49

How about we talk about gun safety measures, one of which is the banning of Skidmore Dec 2012 #91

Agreed, they claim we can't ban them beacause there are too many on the street already Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #4

Ban on pot worked so well... Mec9000 Dec 2012 #17

Pot is not even remotely the same thing as guns Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #19

You are talking about banning things Mec9000 Dec 2012 #25

Actually there are plenty of bans that work Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #26

98% of guns you get in a ban are not the ones you need to worry about. Mec9000 Dec 2012 #31

Yes, guns last a long time so why do we need to keep making more of them? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #34

Well who gave you personally the power to Mec9000 Dec 2012 #36

What the hell are you talking about? How do the Westboro idiots apply to this? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #39

You did say Mec9000 Dec 2012 #47

Yes, that is what I said, notice I did not tell anyone what they need Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #50

Oh, so first you say bans won't work, then you say bans will work? Zoeisright Dec 2012 #87

Where did I say bans won't work? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #93

pretty lame G_j Dec 2012 #24

I'm growing a batch of Glocks right now! Deep13 Dec 2012 #56

It's an interesting argument, but I don't accept it because ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #35

I will be back to continue this but right now I have two 90 pound former-republican Dec 2012 #43

all that aside, how would you ever expect the GOP house to pass that legislation? dionysus Dec 2012 #45

That would effectively ban all handguns except revolvers. Deep13 Dec 2012 #53

What's the problem with having armed officials and an unarmed public? DanTex Dec 2012 #68

You obviously haven't studied history very much .... oldhippie Dec 2012 #72

Another non-answer. Is anyone going to even attempt to mount a rational defense of the DanTex Dec 2012 #75

partly principal and partly practicality. Deep13 Dec 2012 #81

That's a fair answer. DanTex Dec 2012 #97

They want us to shrug and say 'these things happen, nothing to be done about it' Dems to Win Dec 2012 #61

Here' an idea. Why doesn't a group of "good gun guys" get together and start another non-profit to libdem4life Dec 2012 #63

Yes it is. Dreams vs. Reality is always a valid argument! Just like if the anti-DUI people....... Logical Dec 2012 #65

Putting the word "IMPOSSIBLE" it in capital letters does not improve the argument. DanTex Dec 2012 #70

I 100% agree it is not a bad idea. It will just never happen. Lets focus initially..... Logical Dec 2012 #73

Don't say never. I agree that we should get what we can in the short term. DanTex Dec 2012 #76

"It will never happen" was also said about integration, Women's suffrage, and the 8 hour work day. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #66

Once Those Dodges Have Been Used It Is On To Attacking The Messenger cantbeserious Dec 2012 #78

yes. it. is. spanone Dec 2012 #88