1700 years ago there could have been some Scythian horseman forcing a Hun to surrender near the same spot.
Or just 125 years or so before it was Napoleon testing the Russian frontier.
Craziest thing to me is that Hitler was very aware of how badly Napoleon botched things by going into Russia but then he did the same thing
Or a thousand years ago when there were motherfucking Vikings roaming about in Ukraine! Yeah, the dudes with the horns and shit!
(And before anyone says anything, I am well-aware that Viking helms were not actually horned, and that it's a fanciful 19th century fiction, I was just trying to be mildly amusing.)
Yeah the Rus around Kiev employed Vikings for long periods, and were somewhat related to much-debated degrees
yup i always think about this, 1700 years ago, 700 years ago, 70 years ago, and 7 months ago, ukraine and russia and all of that zone has never been at peace, always at war and always violence, they should rlly delete that part off of the face of the earth
I recommend Timothy Snyder's excellent book on the region; "Bloodlands; Europe Between Hitler and Stalin."
It's a very very dangerous part of the planet to live in and has been for millennia. Not in terms of the average person's day to day life, but rather, in terms of what has repeatedly happened there when war comes to town.
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