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WVRICK13

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38. I'm Confused

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:43 AM

Dec 2012

I remember President Obama talking against cuts to Social Security and now it appears he will bargain with Social Security. Even if it is just SSI we have to realize that those getting SSI have been determined to be well below the poverty level and SSI is a way to help level the field. We also have to realize that SSI is not even a good try at really helping those people. So, those who are the least able to survive will be thrown under the bus to give the GOP a little something in the deal. I had hoped that the first four years were an anomaly and that after he won the second term President Obama would show backbone and protect the poor. It appears I was wrong. I supported Obama with time and money and quite frankly I feel like I supported a Republican candidate and that really bothers me. Maybe there really aren't political parties in this country but the oligarchy who determines what will happen regardless of an election. Just because we voted doesn't mean we have a democracy.

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I am not ready to eat crow and assume the cuts to Social Security are off the table. [View all] madfloridian Dec 2012 OP

Sounds like everybody and their brother are throwing SS recipients under the bus. forestpath Dec 2012 #1

They are. madfloridian Dec 2012 #9

I'm Confused WVRICK13 Dec 2012 #38

You are right. He said there would be no cuts. madfloridian Dec 2012 #57

Let's forget about the chained CPI Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #2

Democratic presidents should not play games with Social Security dflprincess Dec 2012 #4

Agreed nt newfie11 Dec 2012 #36

You are right. Should never have been put on the table. madfloridian Dec 2012 #42

Yep. That's what people can't understand. duffyduff Dec 2012 #44

And you were looking for the Senate to add the Public Option BlueStreak Dec 2012 #10

I agree. As long as so many Dem forums defend such cuts needed pressure.. madfloridian Dec 2012 #13

+100% snot Dec 2012 #27

Hi snot... madfloridian Dec 2012 #29

No worries: I expect it will be back within a few weeks. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #3

Yes, they have been rescuing it for years now. It never gets rescued enough. madfloridian Dec 2012 #6

K&R. I'm with you, madfloridian. I don't get where Boehner's failure = SS off the table! MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #5

Thanks. I think you are very righte, madfloridian. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #7

Thanks, but most here do not. I accept that. madfloridian Dec 2012 #8

"Most"? No. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #12

I hope you are right. madfloridian Dec 2012 #15

Wow. In your case, I think you shd take that as a sign of your effectiveness. snot Dec 2012 #28

I would like to think that. madfloridian Dec 2012 #35

Make that 10 today. madfloridian Dec 2012 #46

I will believe the cuts, when they actually commence Rex Dec 2012 #11

ssi isn't social security, it's supplemental security income, paid from income taxes; aka HiPointDem Dec 2012 #17

Ah thanks, yes I thought SSI was short for social security. Rex Dec 2012 #18

not medicaid either, separate program, doesn't do medical. it's income support. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #20

I believe it would be political suicide for a party Rex Dec 2012 #21

reagan, 1983 -- started taxing benefits & there were some other cuts as well, i believe. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #22

Thanks. Rex Dec 2012 #24

Excuse me, but when they required us to pay more for the same benefit, snot Dec 2012 #30

Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. Question is: caseymoz Dec 2012 #31

They were on the table... kentuck Dec 2012 #14

Vigilance is the price of liberty. No reason to eat crow, whatever happens. Ignore the agents. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16

This is the correct answer. woo me with science Dec 2012 #40

+1 limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #51

Assumptions are never a good idea riqster Dec 2012 #19

I wait for data, and I do not freak out. I will watch every move. madfloridian Dec 2012 #23

I'm right there with you. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #25

If SS cuts are off the table now I suspect that they will be back on the table soon Teamster Jeff Dec 2012 #26

I hope not, my SS check in small enough now. JohLast Dec 2012 #39

K&R. blackspade Dec 2012 #32

I don't give a f*** about waiting or not. I care about ACTING, snot Dec 2012 #33

"only way it comes off is if we convince them it will cost them more to keep it on." madfloridian Dec 2012 #34

Neither am I Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #37

While on the table, let's switch it back to salary based inflation. Festivito Dec 2012 #41

Good, because they're not Doctor_J Dec 2012 #43

Yep. It's totally unacceptable. n/t duffyduff Dec 2012 #45

Regardless of what ultimately happens, they WERE put on the table MNBrewer Dec 2012 #47

Now that is the true point after all. Thanks. madfloridian Dec 2012 #53

The call out ought to be for the fuckers who said he'd never offer cuts. DirkGently Dec 2012 #48

bingo limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #50

I wouldn't ever apologize for defending Social Security limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #49

Me neither, since I am a recipient of Social Security, RebelOne Dec 2012 #56

The difference between the chained COLA & ending tax cuts Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #52

Of course they aren't off the table. woo me with science Dec 2012 #54

They have tried for years. madfloridian Dec 2012 #55