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newdeal2

(5,405 posts)
11. Yes we can and should do both
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 11:48 PM
Aug 2025

As for your other point, I go back to two things:

1) Death of the WW2 generation. Newer generations take democracy for granted and don't know the dangers of other systems and don't know history all that well in general.
2) Covid and lockdowns really accelerated conspiracy theories and general selfishness.

Both of those factors make our systems very vulnerable. People don't seem to care that our institutions are being destroyed; they just want "change" and they want it now.

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This is needed Pachamama Aug 2025 #1
Some members of our party EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #2
That isn't me Pachamama Aug 2025 #6
Indeed, although I suspect we differ on WHO those Democrats are. W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #31
Huh? Pachamama Aug 2025 #32
I think you need to pay more attention. GaYellowDawg Aug 2025 #19
Thank you for this post. murielm99 Aug 2025 #25
Very involved and long time DUer and met him Pachamama Aug 2025 #33
I've been here since 2004, too. GaYellowDawg Aug 2025 #41
They were talking about Schumer, I suspect Orrex Aug 2025 #42
Read more carefully. GaYellowDawg Aug 2025 #44
I read it fine, thanks. Orrex Aug 2025 #45
That's interesting. GaYellowDawg Aug 2025 #46
Please read post 19, where "alternative facts" were also invoked. Orrex Aug 2025 #47
You're flailing, Orrex. GaYellowDawg Aug 2025 #48
Best wishes to you as you sort things out. Orrex Aug 2025 #49
Yup yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #39
Gov. Newsom has helped lead the charge... Dem4life1970 Aug 2025 #3
We have two examples so far newdeal2 Aug 2025 #4
How can we prosper as a country EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #5
We can still move forward and make progress. Voters are motivated by their own self-interests newdeal2 Aug 2025 #8
We can give them that, too EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #10
Yes we can and should do both newdeal2 Aug 2025 #11
Then they'd want change from this, too, right? EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #12
Lol. Too many if not most voters don't even know what their own KPN Aug 2025 #27
"First they came for the people in LA, and I did not speak out..." Lancero Aug 2025 #34
I have some ideas but many here would jump Tree Lady Aug 2025 #7
I mean, trans people have the right to exist EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #9
But we don't get to decide which issues are put before us Oeditpus Rex Aug 2025 #13
Then we need to hammer those real issues up front EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #17
We didn't make it the center of our platform. Republicans did. GoodRaisin Aug 2025 #16
Then it's time to push back on it EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #18
No disagreement there. Fox News is still pushing that lie. GoodRaisin Aug 2025 #21
It's time to get the word out about Fox EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #22
Yep. We'll see it again in the next election if we don't. Right now it has been very GoodRaisin Aug 2025 #23
Not so much "we brought up other wedge issues" KPN Aug 2025 #29
I'm sure many agree with you on some of this RoseTrellis Aug 2025 #30
Absolutely. Stop playing the culture war BS writerJT Aug 2025 #43
"Democratic politicians are responding the only way they know how: by heeding the advice of the wonks who... LudwigPastorius Aug 2025 #14
I believe that dogshit's approval among young people who know nothing, is that he was fighting. usonian Aug 2025 #15
It's messaging MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #20
Showing one's duplicity is a time tested effective strategy in politics. SouthBayDem Aug 2025 #24
Stand UP! SPEAK OUT James48 Aug 2025 #26
How much did Blue Rose charge for this? fujiyamasan Aug 2025 #28
''The other component of Shakir's pitch involves a subject with which he is deeply familiar: media'' Donkees Aug 2025 #35
Establishment wonk memo: Dem messaging against Trump authoritarianism bad, Repub authentic Trump crime fighter hero betsuni Aug 2025 #36
He ain't no stinking crime fighter EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #37
Oh, dear! You suggested the Democratic response to our country being taken over by fascism should be stronger! Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #38
Fire the strategists! yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #40
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